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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: kai@emptydomain.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Gnus integration (was: MH-E 7.4.4 checked in)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:23:17 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200407151623.i6FGNHq29514@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1smbtnxse.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan on 15 Jul 2004 10:45:11 -0400)

Stefan Monnier wrote:

   I think the problem is that upstream fell out of sync.
   We should really try to avoid any local change that the upstream
   maintainer rejects, otherwise it becomes unmaintainable (I've seen it in
   miniature with cperl-mode.el, and I'd rather not think about what it can
   turn into with something like Gnus).

I indeed believe that no changes (in Emacs CVS) to packages
distributed with Emacs should be made without discussing them with the
maintainers of those packages.  People making changes to Emacs CVS
usually do not worry about all the compatibility issues that the
maintainers of those packages do worry about a lot, so merging changes
may indeed become very non-trivial.  For instance, my original
proposed patch to tramp.el did not take compatibility issues into
account, but, after discussing this with Kai, the patch I actually
committed does, so that there should be no merging difficulties.  If
the maintainers of the package know of, and approve of, the change in
its exact form, why should they _not_ include it in their own CVS
version?  In some cases, there might actually be some reasons, like
philosophical differences, say about run-time loading of cl in the
case of cc-mode, but even in those cases, I believe maintainers should
be aware of the changes made to Emacs CVS.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-15 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-13  3:26 MH-E 7.4.4 checked in Bill Wohler
2004-07-13  5:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-13  4:24   ` Bill Wohler
2004-07-13 19:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-13 21:59       ` Miles Bader
2004-07-14  5:09       ` Bill Wohler
2004-07-14 21:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-16 13:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-16 12:39           ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-16 14:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-16 14:09               ` Satyaki Das
2004-07-16 15:17                 ` Stefan
2004-07-16 17:00                   ` Satyaki Das
2004-07-16 20:40                     ` Bill Wohler
2004-07-17 11:54                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-17 10:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-17 11:21                   ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-17 12:40                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-17 17:20                       ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-17 15:11                   ` Stefan
2004-07-18 15:26                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-14  7:38       ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-07-14 10:39         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-07-14 10:51           ` Miles Bader
2004-07-14 13:22             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-07-14 22:04               ` Miles Bader
2004-07-15 14:45                 ` Gnus integration (was: MH-E 7.4.4 checked in) Stefan
2004-07-15 16:07                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-07-15 16:23                   ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2004-07-15 16:20                 ` Gnus update " Reiner Steib
2004-07-15 16:58                   ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-16 16:08                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-16 16:46                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-07-18  7:19                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-16 17:38                     ` Gnus update Reiner Steib
2004-07-18  7:18                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-18  7:18                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-23 14:57                       ` Dave Love
2004-07-23 16:03                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-07-23 16:08                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-07-19  7:47                     ` Gnus update (was: MH-E 7.4.4 checked in) Juanma Barranquero
2004-07-19 18:44                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-20 21:33                         ` Gnus update Reiner Steib
2004-07-22 11:14                         ` Gnus update (was: MH-E 7.4.4 checked in) Juanma Barranquero
2004-07-22 16:27                           ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-22 16:48                             ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-23  7:50                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-07-24  3:01                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-24  3:38                               ` Miles Bader
2004-07-25  3:33                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-26 14:19                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-07-26 18:11                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-24 17:30                               ` Stefan
2004-07-26 19:03                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-07-26 19:18                               ` Gnus update Andreas Schwab
2004-07-26 21:12                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-07-27 18:59                                   ` Reiner Steib
2004-07-27 19:59                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2004-08-02 14:44                                       ` Reiner Steib
2004-08-02 15:38                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-08-03 15:27                                           ` Reiner Steib
2004-07-27 18:59                                 ` Reiner Steib
2004-07-27 19:49                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2004-07-27 21:50                                     ` Reiner Steib
2004-08-02 14:46                                     ` Reiner Steib
2004-08-03 15:37                                       ` Reiner Steib
2004-08-05  4:22                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-05 19:48                                           ` Reiner Steib
2004-08-01 15:22                                 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-07-15 13:17               ` MH-E 7.4.4 checked in Richard Stallman
2004-07-14 21:35         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-07-14 22:13           ` Miles Bader
2004-07-15  5:17             ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-07-15 13:38               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-07-15 14:41                 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-07-16 16:08                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-07-17 17:34                   ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-07-15 15:58               ` Gnus update (was: MH-E 7.4.4 checked in) Reiner Steib
2004-07-16  1:04                 ` Gnus update Miles Bader
2004-07-16  8:57                   ` David Kastrup
2004-07-16  9:08                     ` Miles Bader
2004-07-16  9:33                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-07-16 13:50                         ` Stefan
2004-07-16  9:35                     ` Frank Schmitt
2004-07-16 10:22                       ` David Kastrup
2004-07-18  8:29                       ` Adrian Aichner
2004-07-16  6:54               ` MH-E 7.4.4 checked in Richard Stallman
2004-07-15 13:17         ` Richard Stallman

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