From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dapfy@t-online.de (Daniel Pfeiffer) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Mark handling (Was: Changes to emacs/lisp/progmodes/grep.el) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 12:47:40 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040704124740.1dc5ec4d@pfdabpc.inhouse.start.de> References: <87isdgnzzi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <20040625220304.0f1fd05a@pfdabpc.inhouse.start.de> <20040627123340.5d3354cd@pfdabpc.inhouse.start.de> <20040628104013.5b4eb37e@pfdabpc.inhouse.start.de> <7494-Mon28Jun2004200058+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <20040628232216.5be7f8dd@pfdabpc.inhouse.start.de> <5567-Tue29Jun2004071049+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <20040629220851.07104e4c@pfdabpc.inhouse.start.de> <87oen1k4yc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <20040702235848.255ecbbe@pfdabpc.inhouse.start.de> Reply-To: Daniel Pfeiffer NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1088967162 5525 80.91.224.253 (4 Jul 2004 18:52:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 18:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 04 20:52:32 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BhC6K-0006BO-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:52:32 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BhC6K-0001gR-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:52:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhC8G-00077L-11 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:54:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhC83-000770-0b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:54:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhC7z-00076n-2K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:54:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhC7z-00076k-06; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:54:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.25.134.20] (helo=mailout08.sul.t-online.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhC5a-0005Fb-FL; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 14:51:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BhC5Y-0000UT-03; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 20:51:44 +0200 Original-Received: from pfdabpc.inhouse.start.de (Eq4O5vZVreyP7kqANoTrovOVhKhBvWy7cDkTKnuVAwvdy8E0ukuVgG@[217.234.31.236]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BhC5R-0uvfm40; Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:51:37 +0200 Original-To: rms@gnu.org, emacs-pretest-bug In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-suse-linux) X-Seen: false X-ID: Eq4O5vZVreyP7kqANoTrovOVhKhBvWy7cDkTKnuVAwvdy8E0ukuVgG X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:25447 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:3474 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:25447 Hi, Richard Stallman skribis: > But the "expected behavior" for such users is that both > region-beginning and region-end are independent from point, so it's > a non-trivial change. > > That does sound thoroughly incompatible with Emacs. However, the > programs I've seen don't seem to cancel the selection when you move > point. That would not be difficult, and is what we now do > after a mouse drag. Region handling seem to recently have been screwed up, and it's utterly annoying. In some cases, which I have not yet figured out, I get errors at least from M-w (not sure what else I may have come across) that the mark is not activated. But it does exist, because I can do C-x C-x and afterwards M-w works. coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn Daniel Pfeiffer -- lerne / learn / apprends / lär dig / ucz się Esperanto: http://lernu.net/