* bug in comment-region
@ 2004-06-09 13:36 Werner LEMBERG
2004-06-09 14:01 ` Karl Chen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Werner LEMBERG @ 2004-06-09 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
[CVS 2004-05-30]
Assume this:
foo
bar
After calling comment-region I get this:
;; foo
;; bar
(the actual comment prefix doesn't matter).
The doc string of comment-region says this:
Comment or uncomment each line in the region.
^^^^^^^^^
This is not how command-region currently works. I really would like
to have this:
;; foo
;;
;; bar
In case the current behaviour is intentional, please change the
prefix arg to make the function work on all lines.
Or even better, make comment-region work as advertised:
. A normal call comments all lines of a region.
. A call prefixed with C-u comments only non-empty lines. I
strongly suggest to abandon the current behaviour of the C-u
prefix (i.e., uncommenting a region), given that we have a
separate `uncomment-region' function.
Werner
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* Re: bug in comment-region
2004-06-09 13:36 bug in comment-region Werner LEMBERG
@ 2004-06-09 14:01 ` Karl Chen
2004-06-09 14:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karl Chen @ 2004-06-09 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Werner" == Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org> writes:
Werner> This is not how command-region currently works. I
Werner> really would like to have this:
Werner>
Werner> ;; foo
Werner> ;;
Werner> ;; bar
Try:
(setq comment-empty-lines t)
(`comment-empty-lines' should be documented and referenced in
`comment-region' et al)
--
Karl 2004-06-09 06:59
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* Re: bug in comment-region
2004-06-09 14:01 ` Karl Chen
@ 2004-06-09 14:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-06-09 14:14 ` David Kastrup
2004-06-09 21:09 ` Miles Bader
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Werner LEMBERG @ 2004-06-09 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
> Try:
> (setq comment-empty-lines t)
Thanks. Anyway, my suggestion w.r.t. C-u still holds -- IMHO it is
quite inconvenient to control the behaviour of such a versatile
function with a global variable. For example, I might prefer to
comment empty lines in C mode but not in TeX mode.
Werner
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* Re: bug in comment-region
2004-06-09 14:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
@ 2004-06-09 14:14 ` David Kastrup
2004-06-09 14:42 ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-06-09 21:09 ` Miles Bader
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Kastrup @ 2004-06-09 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: quarl+dated+1087221580.02c4f1, quarl, emacs-devel
Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org> writes:
> > Try:
> > (setq comment-empty-lines t)
>
> Thanks. Anyway, my suggestion w.r.t. C-u still holds -- IMHO it is
> quite inconvenient to control the behaviour of such a versatile
> function with a global variable. For example, I might prefer to
> comment empty lines in C mode but not in TeX mode.
(add-hook 'c-mode-hook (lambda ()
(set (make-local-variable 'comment-empty-lines) t)))
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* Re: bug in comment-region
2004-06-09 14:14 ` David Kastrup
@ 2004-06-09 14:42 ` Werner LEMBERG
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Werner LEMBERG @ 2004-06-09 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: quarl+dated+1087221580.02c4f1, quarl, emacs-devel
> (add-hook 'c-mode-hook (lambda ()
> (set (make-local-variable 'comment-empty-lines) t)))
Thanks. I still think that comment-region's behaviour can be
improved...
Werner
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* Re: bug in comment-region
2004-06-09 14:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-06-09 14:14 ` David Kastrup
@ 2004-06-09 21:09 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-09 23:06 ` Werner LEMBERG
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Miles Bader @ 2004-06-09 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: quarl+dated+1087221580.02c4f1, quarl, emacs-devel
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 04:08:02PM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> Thanks. Anyway, my suggestion w.r.t. C-u still holds -- IMHO it is
> quite inconvenient to control the behaviour of such a versatile
> function with a global variable.
`comment-region' and `comment-dwim' already have a (much more useful) meaning
for C-u (in fact, comment-region has several).
-Miles
--
We have met the enemy, and he is us. -- Pogo
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* Re: bug in comment-region
2004-06-09 21:09 ` Miles Bader
@ 2004-06-09 23:06 ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-06-10 1:36 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-10 9:11 ` Karl Chen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Werner LEMBERG @ 2004-06-09 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: quarl+dated+1087221580.02c4f1, quarl, emacs-devel
> > Thanks. Anyway, my suggestion w.r.t. C-u still holds -- IMHO it
> > is quite inconvenient to control the behaviour of such a versatile
> > function with a global variable.
>
> `comment-region' and `comment-dwim' already have a (much more
> useful) meaning for C-u (in fact, comment-region has several).
I haven't yet used comment-dwim, so I won't say something about this
function. But IMHO it is a strange idea to have `C-u something' do
exactly the opposite of `something'. Until now I've considered the
C-u prefix as a means to get an extended or slightly modified
functionality of a function.
Are there other commands which do the opposite if prefixed with C-u?
And I don't agree with your conclusion that the several meanings of
C-u for `comment-region' are `much more useful'. For me, they are
useful for `uncomment-region' only.
Werner
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* Re: bug in comment-region
2004-06-09 23:06 ` Werner LEMBERG
@ 2004-06-10 1:36 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-10 9:11 ` Karl Chen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Miles Bader @ 2004-06-10 1:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: quarl+dated+1087221580.02c4f1, quarl, emacs-devel
Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org> writes:
> I haven't yet used comment-dwim, so I won't say something about this
> function. But IMHO it is a strange idea to have `C-u something' do
> exactly the opposite of `something'.
Not at all. Indeed, it's stunningly natural.
> And I don't agree with your conclusion that the several meanings of
> C-u for `comment-region' are `much more useful'. For me, they are
> useful for `uncomment-region' only.
Clearly a matter of opinion; I've made mine clear (I really like the
way the comment-foo functions work currently).
-Miles
--
自らを空にして、心を開く時、道は開かれる
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* Re: bug in comment-region
2004-06-09 23:06 ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-06-10 1:36 ` Miles Bader
@ 2004-06-10 9:11 ` Karl Chen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karl Chen @ 2004-06-10 9:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel, miles
I use C-u comment-region / comment-dwim all the time. Perhaps
that functionality could be moved to M-- (negative-argument)
instead of C-u though.
(BTW: I actually use my own function `comment-line-or-region'
which is much more useful when transient-mark-mode is on)
>>> "Werner" == Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org> writes:
Werner>
>> Thanks. Anyway, my suggestion w.r.t. C-u still holds --
>> IMHO it is quite inconvenient to control the behaviour of
>> such a versatile function with a global variable.
>>
>> `comment-region' and `comment-dwim' already have a (much
>> more useful) meaning for C-u (in fact, comment-region has
>> several).
Werner>
Werner> I haven't yet used comment-dwim, so I won't say
Werner> something about this function. But IMHO it is a
Werner> strange idea to have `C-u something' do exactly the
Werner> opposite of `something'. Until now I've considered
Werner> the C-u prefix as a means to get an extended or
Werner> slightly modified functionality of a function.
Werner>
Werner> Are there other commands which do the opposite if
Werner> prefixed with C-u?
Werner>
Werner> And I don't agree with your conclusion that the
Werner> several meanings of C-u for `comment-region' are `much
Werner> more useful'. For me, they are useful for
Werner> `uncomment-region' only.
Werner>
Werner>
Werner> Werner
Werner>
--
Karl 2004-06-10 02:07
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