From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize interface: The use of "boxed" buttons Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 16:55:14 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040606205514.GA20923@fencepost> References: <20040605222621.GC11194@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086555353 1355 80.91.224.253 (6 Jun 2004 20:55:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 20:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 06 22:55:38 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BX4g6-0005Xe-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:55:38 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BX4g5-0008AY-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:55:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BX4gb-00074L-2Q for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BX4gU-00073g-1F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BX4gT-00073I-25 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:56:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BX4gS-00072n-Ms for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:56:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BX4fi-0004Oi-Mc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:55:14 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BX4fi-0007dZ-F4; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:55:14 -0400 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24619 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24619 On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 04:47:55PM +0200, Per Abrahamsen wrote: > > That's quite silly. The `graphical' buttons are much, much, much more > > recogizable as "buttons" than the old style. > > Sure, but they make the interface nearly unusable. In your original post you complained about lots of things. I _agree_ that the customize mouse-over reaction is inconsistent, and it ought to just be mouse-down. However you are giving the impression that you somehow think the `3d' faces are bad, even if they were used a bit more consistently with the way other use them. _That_ simply doesn't make the least bit of sense. Am I wrong that you feel this way? [Whatever the case, `nearly unusable' is clearly hyperbole -- I've never heard _any_ negative comments from a user about the customize buttons.] -Miles -- /\ /\ (^.^) (")") *This is the cute kitty virus, please copy this into your sig so it can spread.