From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: minibuffer-eldef Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 18:40:41 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040603224041.GC21059@fencepost> References: <20040602071529.GA21505@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086302490 26941 80.91.224.253 (3 Jun 2004 22:41:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 22:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wl@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 04 00:41:17 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BW0tg-0004fq-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 00:41:16 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BW0tg-00066M-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 00:41:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BW0u1-0000yr-En for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:41:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BW0ty-0000yW-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:41:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BW0tx-0000xz-GJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BW0tx-0000xp-BN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BW0tE-0001fS-7i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:40:48 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BW0t7-0008NQ-CV; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 18:40:41 -0400 Original-To: David Kastrup Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24488 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24488 On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 10:13:44AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > I never argued that delete-selection-mode should be the default for > Emacs. I just said that when it _is_ switched on, it might be > sensible to deal with default values in the usual and somewhat natural > manner people associate with that mode. I disagree. That style of `default' is annoying even on MS systems (which of course always use the equivalent of `delete-selection-mode'). It's just a dumb idea. It might make sense to allow people to _explicitly_ request that style of default if they use delete-selection-mode, but that's pretty irrelevant to the question at hand. -Miles -- Next to fried food, the South has suffered most from oratory. -- Walter Hines Page