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From: "Lane A. Hemaspaandra" <lane@cs.rochester.edu>
Subject: seeming bug in sendmail.el: resend using -t always does wrong things it seems...
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 12:05:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200405311605.i4VG5doB010175@bangkok.cs.rochester.edu> (raw)

dear emacs bug list keeper,

hi!  i use emacs Rmail but am NOT an expert.  however, i noticed that
when i C-u f a message sometimes the machine i am resending to itself
seems to try to send carbons to all the people in the original carbon
copy fields!!---an incorrect behavior.  on May 25th i sent to our
labstaff here an example showing that that was happening (i include it
below).  and they shortly thereafter determined (related to a guess i
sent) that the problem seems to be a change in sendmail.el that i
think was proposed at
  http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2001-01/msg00127.html
and is part of the current sendmail.el---namely, a change in 
sendmail that results in using the -t flag always.  anyway, here is
the reply the staff sent me:

====================================================================
>From bukys@cs.rochester.edu  Wed May 26 11:57:10 2004
To: "Lane A. Hemaspaandra" <lane@cs.rochester.edu>
cc: bukys@cs.rochester.edu, labstaff@cs.rochester.edu
Subject: Re: mail problem... 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 2004 19:13:31 EDT."
             <200405252313.i4PNDVIU019879@bangkok.cs.rochester.edu> 
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:56:54 -0400
From: Liudvikas Bukys <bukys@cs.rochester.edu>
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I hand-sent one test message to your RoadRunner account, just to be sure.
You should see that next time you read RoadRunner mail.

MEANWHILE, however,
I must conclude that /usr/share/emacs/21.2/lisp/mail/sendmail.el is broken,
in exactly the place you discovered.  ALWAYS invoking -t is wrong.
As you showed earlier, the code for treating "Resent" mail used to be there,
but was commented out.  For history on why, you can see
  http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2001-01/msg00127.html
but in any event, its current state is broken.  "Fixing" the resent code
might be tricky.  Is there an easy alternative such as keybinding to
piping through a shell script?  -- e.g. for resending just pipe into
"| /usr/lib/sendmail lh@rochester.rr.com"?
====================================================================

again, i'm not at all a mail expert, and so don't follow -t flags and
so on, but the change made in 2001, to fix one bug, seems to have
introduced the bug i mentioned above.  (if this is the wrong place to
send it, i apologize for having taken your time.  and in any case,
thanks and best regards.)

cheers,
lane (hemaspaandra, Univ. of Roch. Dept. of Comp. Sci.)
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Date: 25 May 2004 16:35:36 -0400
From: "Lane A. Hemaspaandra" <lane@cs.rochester.edu>
To: labstaff
Subject: mailer problem: blind-forward and cc fields and emacs rmail and mail system

dear labstaff,

i've noticed recently that when i blind-forward an email, sometimes
the mailer tries to send it NOT to whatever address i resend it to but
instead to someone who was in the carbon copy of the ORIGINAL email.  
you can see this happening below.  the mailer i use is the emacs rmail
system.  the command i use is NOT f, but 
	 C-u f
namely, the blind-forward command.  now, i can see that that leaves
most of the header intact, but still, in the past i don't recall the
forwarded CC's taking effect (though i can see why they might), and
now they often seem to.  so, i guess this probably is a problem in
either email rmail itself, or if not, is a problem in the say sendmail
is interpreting what emacs is handing it.

cheers,
lane
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Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:20:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@nymx01.mgw.rr.com>
To: <lane@cs.rochester.edu>
Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours
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