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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <jmbarranquero@wke.es>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
Subject: Re: Suggestion: Mapping of M-g should be goto-line
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 19:07:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040327000752.GC26429@fencepost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m13c7vu1yy.fsf-monnier+emacs@empanada.iro.umontreal.ca>

On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 09:25:49AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> It seems people don't understand what I really want to say, so here's
> another take on it:
> 
> 1 - let's create a new command
>
>    (global-set-key "\C-c\C-c" 'done-editing-now-do-it)
> 
> 2 - let's optimize it away:
> 
>    (global-set-key "\C-c\C-c" 'compile)
> 
>     Notice it's only an optimization that relies on the fact that the
>     binding can trivially be overridden by local maps and on the fact that
>     done-editing-now-do-it did not do anything more than call the
>     done-editing-now-do-it-function function.  The intention is still that
>     major modes (or recursive-edit or minor-modes or whatever else shows up)
>     should rebind it to something more appropriate if applicable.

I intensely dislike this sort of `ah modes can just rebind the key' way of
avoiding a level of indirection, because often I use different global
bindings that normal -- and in that case, with a variable used for
configuring things, everything works great, but if modes `override by
rebinding', then I end up having to have my own personal special cases for
every single mode that wants to do this.

A good example is `fill-paragraph-function': I _love_ this, because I use a
non-standard binding for `fill-paragaraph'; in the bad-old-days, when many
modes with paragraph-filling support would just rebind `M-q' (or whatever the
standard binding for fill-paragraph is -- I can't remember!), it was a
nightmare, but now that most instead just set fill-paragraph-function, I have
no problems at all, everything works swimmingly.

[I've always wished for a level of indirection _built into keymaps_ --
e.g. standard global bindings could be named, and then locally overridden by
name in modes.]

-Miles
-- 
Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose   --Janis Joplin

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-27  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-25  6:11 Suggestion: Mapping of M-g should be goto-line Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2004-03-25  7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-25  9:10   ` John Wiegley
2004-03-25 15:06     ` Eric Hanchrow
2004-03-25 16:39       ` ams
2004-03-25 21:54         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-25 22:21           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 23:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-25 23:41               ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 23:53                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26  0:50                   ` David Kastrup
2004-03-26  2:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26 11:14                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-26 10:29                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-26 12:38                           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-26 13:36                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-26 14:25                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-27  0:07                               ` Miles Bader [this message]
2004-03-27 14:53                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-04-01  1:53                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-03-28  1:36                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-26 15:27                       ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-26 17:49                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-03-26 15:19                   ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-26 16:40                     ` David Kastrup
2004-04-01 14:25                       ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-01 16:15                         ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 16:26   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26  0:19     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-26 16:53     ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-03-25  9:46 ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25  9:54   ` Lucas
2004-03-25 10:21   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 10:32   ` Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2004-03-25 11:23     ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 11:34       ` Lucas
2004-03-25 14:22         ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2004-03-25 11:55       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 12:30         ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 13:43           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 14:34             ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-29 20:34               ` Ted Lemon
2004-03-25 13:53           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 14:49             ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 15:14               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-03-25 16:08             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-25 16:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-25 18:56                 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-25 19:39                   ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 12:25       ` Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2004-03-25 12:55         ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 14:16           ` Jari Aalto
2004-03-25 16:28           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 17:28           ` Alan Shutko
2004-03-25 12:27       ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 13:47         ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 15:18           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 13:35       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-25 13:53         ` Danilo Segan
2004-03-25 21:09           ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-27  5:52           ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-27 16:30             ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-26  0:11         ` Jari Aalto+mail.linux
2004-03-26 14:31           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-26 15:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-26 21:31             ` Jari Aalto
2004-03-26 21:29               ` David Kastrup
2004-03-27  0:16                 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-28 17:02                   ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2004-03-28 17:37                     ` David Kastrup
2004-03-28 21:11                       ` Miles Bader
2004-03-28 21:10                     ` Miles Bader
2004-03-25 11:42 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 12:27   ` Jari Aalto+mail.emacs
2004-03-25 14:56     ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-25 18:03       ` David Kastrup
2004-03-25 19:10       ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-03-25 16:47   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-25 16:42     ` David Kastrup
2004-03-26  0:13       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-27  5:52   ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-27  8:14     ` Jérôme Marant
2004-03-27 11:00       ` David Kastrup
2004-03-27 13:50         ` Jérôme Marant
2004-03-27 10:46     ` David Kastrup
2004-03-28  4:25       ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-28 17:03         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-28 21:14           ` Miles Bader
2004-04-01 16:04           ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-01 17:35             ` David Kastrup
2004-03-27 16:17     ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-28  4:25       ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-28 13:32         ` Joachim Nilsson
2004-03-28 13:50           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-28 17:52             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-03-28 17:29           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-28 21:18           ` Miles Bader
2004-03-29 20:56           ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-31  9:30 ` Kim F. Storm

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