From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Emacs 21.3.1 appears to ignore X resources Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:04:33 -0500 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200401280004.i0S04Xd4008169@snark.thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075248354 5934 80.91.224.253 (28 Jan 2004 00:05:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 28 01:05:23 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AldCt-0004Xp-00 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 01:05:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AldCj-0004uz-0a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:05:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AldCg-0004r6-MT for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:05:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AldC7-0004VQ-P0 for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:05:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.92.53.140] (helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AldC6-0004TV-Nq for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:04:34 -0500 Original-Received: from snark.thyrsus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snark.thyrsus.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0S04Xpr008173 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:04:33 -0500 Original-Received: (from esr@localhost) by snark.thyrsus.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0S04Xd4008169; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:04:33 -0500 Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:6793 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:6793 I'm running 21.3.1, having just upgraded to Fedora Core 1. Emacs now appears to be ignoring the X preferences I have set for foreground/background colors and font sizes. -- Eric S. Raymond From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: Emacs 21.3.1 appears to ignore X resources Date: 28 Jan 2004 08:37:31 +0200 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200401280004.i0S04Xd4008169@snark.thyrsus.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075271792 17012 80.91.224.253 (28 Jan 2004 06:36:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 06:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 28 07:36:28 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AljJM-0000yn-00 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:36:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AljJK-0000lQ-K7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 01:36:26 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AljJI-0000jS-3u for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 01:36:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AljIl-0000LO-Mg for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 01:36:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [207.232.27.5] (helo=WST0054) by monty-python.gnu.org with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AljIk-0000IE-Nv; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 01:35:51 -0500 Original-To: "Eric S. Raymond" In-reply-to: <200401280004.i0S04Xd4008169@snark.thyrsus.com> (esr@snark.thyrsus.com) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:6795 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:6795 > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:04:33 -0500 > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > > I'm running 21.3.1, having just upgraded to Fedora Core 1. > > Emacs now appears to be ignoring the X preferences I have set for > foreground/background colors and font sizes. Details, please. A short self-contained example, where Emacs is invoked with "emacs -nw --no-site-file" and the X resources that it seemingly ignores are kept to the bare minimum, would be most helpful. (I don't think Emacs 21.3 ignores X resources in general, so it must be something specific to your local setup.) From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: Emacs 21.3.1 appears to ignore X resources Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:20:46 -0500 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040129142046.GA12399@thyrsus.com> References: <200401280004.i0S04Xd4008169@snark.thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075386317 24953 80.91.224.253 (29 Jan 2004 14:25:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Eric S. Raymond" , bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 29 15:25:06 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AmD6Q-0000Tv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:25:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AmD3y-0006HR-Hp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:22:34 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AmD3w-0006HM-NS for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:22:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AmD3Q-00069s-Eu for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:22:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.92.53.140] (helo=snark.thyrsus.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AmD3P-00069G-EA for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:21:59 -0500 Original-Received: from snark.thyrsus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snark.thyrsus.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0TEKlBR012414; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:20:47 -0500 Original-Received: (from esr@localhost) by snark.thyrsus.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0TEKkwq012412; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:20:46 -0500 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:6810 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:6810 Eli Zaretskii : > > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:04:33 -0500 > > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > > > > I'm running 21.3.1, having just upgraded to Fedora Core 1. > > > > Emacs now appears to be ignoring the X preferences I have set for > > foreground/background colors and font sizes. > > Details, please. A short self-contained example, where Emacs is > invoked with "emacs -nw --no-site-file" and the X resources that it > seemingly ignores are kept to the bare minimum, would be most helpful. > > (I don't think Emacs 21.3 ignores X resources in general, so it must > be something specific to your local setup.) You're right; I've since found the problem. You might want to put this one in whatever online knowledge base you have. My X resource assignments weren't being ignored but overridden, and not by Emacs. A stock FC1 setup drops an .Xresources file in your $HOME that is interpreted after .Xdefaults. It was stepping on several of my settings. Removing the offending lines solved the problem. -- Eric S. Raymond