From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Showing end of buffer Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:42:59 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040119214259.GA25875@fencepost> References: <87ptdfbrgu.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1074549050 15788 80.91.224.253 (19 Jan 2004 21:50:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 19 22:50:34 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AihI1-0008Js-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:50:33 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AihI1-00014N-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:50:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AihFr-0004wG-8N for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:48:19 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AihFI-0004uA-Hw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:47:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AihCX-0004IE-5u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:45:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AihCV-0004HX-EI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:44:51 -0500 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AihAh-0006yk-FR; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:42:59 -0500 Original-To: Kai Grossjohann Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ptdfbrgu.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19295 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19295 On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:42:25PM +0100, Kai Grossjohann wrote: > I makes sense to put the beginning indicator on the left and the end > indicator on the right, in a way. But somehow I expected both to be > on the left. > > What do people think? I agree that it sort of `makes sense', but one thing I do find annoying is that the _up_ indicator switches between left and right depending on whether it's `beginning of file' or an up-arrow. I think it would makes sense to put the up-arrow also on the right; I find glancing at those indicators when scrolling, and putting them in the same spot would make my glancing a lot easier... :-) Another small issue is that I'd like the arrows to be even more distinct from the bof/eof indicators than they are now, to make quick recognition easier; perhaps just adding a another row of pixels to the vertical line inthe bof/eof indicators would do th job. BTW, I'll join the crowd in saying thanks, Kim! This stuff is very nice. [The cursor-in-fringe change too -- finally my shell buffers can display ps output normally!] Thanks, -Miles -- I'm beginning to think that life is just one long Yoko Ono album; no rhyme or reason, just a lot of incoherent shrieks and then it's over. --Ian Wolff