From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: automatic anchors for definition commands. Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:34:09 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200401072134.i07LY9A18724@f7.net> References: <200401070250.i072oJC09935@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1073511977 16400 80.91.224.253 (7 Jan 2004 21:46:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 07 22:46:14 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AeLVG-0008KR-00 for ; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:46:14 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AeLVG-0005KL-00 for ; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:46:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AeMMC-00084Z-2O for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:40:56 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AeMLh-0007wt-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:40:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AeML9-0007gR-50 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:40:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AeML8-0007Ny-9q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:39:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [209.61.216.22] (helo=f7.net) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AeLJi-0006F3-3p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 16:34:18 -0500 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by f7.net (8.11.7-20030920/8.11.7) id i07LY9A18724; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:34:09 -0500 Original-To: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu In-Reply-To: <200401070250.i072oJC09935@raven.dms.auburn.edu> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19080 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19080 Like Eli, I'm not entirely sure what I think of the proposal. I recognize the annoyance factor in adding anchors. On the one hand, the @def commands already generate automatic index entries, so it doesn't seem too unreasonable to generate automatic anchors as well. Your initial thought of "defcmd of identifier" for the naming convention doesn't seem too bad to me. At least, I can't immediately think of anything I like better. On the other hand, are those long lists of xref's with no explanation really all that useful? I'm not sure. And as Eli says, sometimes reading from the beginning of the node is better. Hmm.