From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Werner LEMBERG Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [wl@gnu.org: changing line heights] Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:32:23 +0200 (CEST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030926.073223.258112866.wl@gnu.org> References: <20030926003720.GB3873@fencepost> <3F7394BC.1070103@jclark.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064554512 31937 80.91.224.253 (26 Sep 2003 05:35:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 05:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gerd.moellmann@t-online.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 26 07:35:09 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A2lG1-00039x-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:35:09 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A2lNV-0005Al-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:42:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A2lE3-0005W1-Ue for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:33:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A2lDz-0005Tw-QG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A2lDu-0005RY-T4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:33:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.227.126.188] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A2lDu-0005RP-Hf; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:32:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.227.126.205] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1A2lDt-0004Kt-00; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:32:57 +0200 Original-Received: from [80.129.77.175] (helo=orion.univie.ac.at) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1A2lDt-0008Uw-00; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:32:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.univie.ac.at (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h8Q5WOa09005; Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:32:24 +0200 Original-To: jjc@jclark.com In-Reply-To: <3F7394BC.1070103@jclark.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.0.58 on Emacs 21.3.50.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16659 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16659 > > The default ' and ` characters in the XFree86 4.x fonts I looked > > at*, by contrast, _are_ fairly easy to distinguish in my font -- Since I use the ETL fonts at a 24x12 resolution, this is true for me also -- the ` and ' glyphs are *designed* to be used as left and right quotes. > Unicode says that the characters 0x60 and 0x27 are a grave accent > and a vertical quote, not an open and close quotation mark. The > XFree86 fonts are doing the right thing. The ETL fonts aren't XFree86 fonts... > However, GNU documentation (info and doc strings) use them as open > and close quotation marks. It seems to me that the right solution > is by default to map 0x60/0x27 to the Unicode quotation marks only > in buffers displaying documentation (help and info); users should > also be able to enable this mapping on a per-buffer basis and > globally. I agree. Whatever solution is found, there should be an indication for `C-u C-x =' that those characters (probably) come from a different font. Additionally, it should be possible to exactly specify which font is used for those two characters. Werner