From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-j in Lisp interaction mode. Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 21:41:07 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200308090241.h792f7M19010@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200308071708.h77H8LR15118@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1060398421 32347 80.91.224.253 (9 Aug 2003 03:07:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 03:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 09 05:07:27 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19lK4l-0001Rw-00 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2003 05:07:27 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19lKAv-0004gY-00 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2003 05:13:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19lK0K-00041k-EA for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 23:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19lJyn-0003Qs-7z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 23:01:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19lJqQ-0007lI-HN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 22:53:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19lJgv-00051Y-LP; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 22:42:49 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h792gleQ004939; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 21:42:47 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h792f7M19010; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 21:41:07 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:41:45 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15853 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15853 Richard Stallman wrote: Also, `eval-expression-print-length' and `eval-expression-print-level' do not seem to be documented in the Elisp manual, which makes their use very confusing to beginning Elisp users. They are documented in the Emacs manual, where the commands are documented. I'm not against putting them in the Lisp manual, but is there a place where they would fit? The evaluation commands are not documented in that manual. The diff below would document `eval-expression-print-length' and `eval-expression-print-level' straight after the definitions of `print-length' and `print-level'. It would prevent readers of the Elisp manual who try out the latter two variables in the *scratch* buffer from being completely confused by Emacs' apparent lack of response in as far as C-j, C-x C-e or similar, is concerned. There is a reference to the section of the Emacs manual which you mentioned. If the diff is OK, I could commit it to the CVS, if desired. ===File ~/streamsdiff======================================= cd ~/ diff -c /home/teirllm/streams.old.texi /home/teirllm/streams.texi *** /home/teirllm/streams.old.texi Tue Jul 22 12:19:57 2003 --- /home/teirllm/streams.texi Fri Aug 8 20:32:27 2003 *************** *** 771,776 **** --- 771,784 ---- @code{nil} (which is the default) means no limit. @end defvar + @defopt eval-expression-print-length + @defoptx eval-expression-print-level + These are the values for @code{print-length} and @code{print-level} + used by @code{eval-expression}, and thus, indirectly, by many + interactive evaluation commands (@pxref{Lisp Eval,, Evaluating + Emacs-Lisp Expressions, emacs, The GNU Emacs Manual}). + @end defopt + These variables are used for detecting and reporting circular and shared structure---but they are only defined in Emacs 21. Diff finished at Fri Aug 8 21:18:10 ============================================================