From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tak Ota Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: narrow-to-here-document Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Sony Electronics Inc. Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030626.104533.35781860.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> References: <20030625.143750.116352160.jet@gyve.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1056654266 4845 80.91.224.249 (26 Jun 2003 19:04:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 26 21:04:24 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Vc27-0001CA-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:03:47 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Vc6k-0005yP-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:08:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Vbht-0004bf-8Y for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:42:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Vb6o-0003qJ-4T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:04:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Vb3e-0003Lb-T5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:01:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail6.fw-sj.sony.com ([160.33.82.73]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Vapf-0000Jc-P9; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:46:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail2.sjc.in.sel.sony.com (mail2.sjc.in.sel.sony.com [43.134.1.111]) by mail6.fw-sj.sony.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18618; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:45:34 GMT Original-Received: by mail2.sjc.in.sel.sony.com id RAA24472; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:45:34 GMT Original-To: miles@gnu.org, miles@lsi.nec.co.jp In-Reply-To: X-Telephone: +1-858-942-3239 X-Fax------: +1-858-942-9142 X-SnailMail: 16450 West Bernardo Drive MZ7205, San Diego, CA 92127-1804 X-Mailer: Mew-4.0.54 on Emacs-21.3.50.1 (i386-msvc-nt5.0.2195) of 2003-06-16 Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: jet@gyve.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15278 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15278 26 Jun 2003 16:19:57 +0900: Miles Bader wrote: > Richard Stallman writes: > > This suggests we should use some other more general term instead. > > How about "literal"? Any other suggestions? > > > > (defun make-indirect-buffer-for-hdoc (&optional change-major-mode)... > > > > I suggest the name edit-literal for that function. > > We should not rigidly put all relevant entities into the function name. > > I find the name `literal' not clear for the opposite reason -- it seems > too broad, and literal seems like a work that might have many other > potential meanings. Since the crucial point is that it's a literal field > embedded in a buffer, how about something like `edit-embedded-literal' or > `edit-literal-field'? It is a bit pity loosing the name 'here document' since its use is so popular that any other naming would be an indirect description of 'here document'. I can imagine such a conversation that: "What is this embedded literal stuff?" "That really is a here document" I Googled {perl|python|ruby} "here document", and found that the name was more generically used now than when it was originally coined. -Tak