From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gud lord! Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 10:56:53 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030609104848.2C86.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> References: <20030609102605.2C83.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055149051 22641 80.91.224.249 (9 Jun 2003 08:57:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 08:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 09 10:57:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19PIT3-0005sz-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2003 10:57:29 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19PImy-0001T9-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2003 11:18:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19PISb-0000QG-9P for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19PIR3-0008N5-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:55:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19PIQs-000884-9d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:55:15 -0400 Original-Received: from laley-actualidad.es ([195.53.61.17] helo=haya.laley.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19PIQr-000822-1d; Mon, 09 Jun 2003 04:55:13 -0400 Original-Received: from idefix.laley.net (correo.wke.es [172.17.220.16]) by haya.laley.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01134; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:52:59 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.17.221.23] (jsredondo.wk.org [172.17.221.23]) by Version 5.5.2655.55) id LP7A4G74; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:56:06 +0200 Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.06.02 Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14945 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14945 On 09 Jun 2003 17:42:38 +0900 Miles Bader wrote: > Yeah, but complaining about a change probably does more good (because it > often represents a real problem with the change, which should be fixed) > than complaining about complaining (which arguably does harm). Well, in fact I don't feel I was complaining about complaining. I was complaining about late-complaining (i.e., the optimum, if totally unreachable, outcome of my complaining would be people complaining earlier :) > Actually my main complaints with moving files are slightly different: > moving files around screws with patches and local changes, and patches > made across a move end up being enormous.. That I can understand. When I updated almost every single file on Emacs to clean up trailing whitespace, I offered to do the same for emacs-unicode so joining back the tree (sometime in the future) would be easier. One of the emacs-unicode developers strongly "suggested" to me Not To Do So; local changes and slow modem connections where mentioned. Juanma