From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Divergence in menu appearance between Emacs Info and standalone Info Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:30:25 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200306051630.h55GUPL00368@f7.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054832345 20362 80.91.224.249 (5 Jun 2003 16:59:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 05 18:59:02 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Ny3k-0005Bt-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 18:57:52 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19NyLt-0002oE-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:16:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Ny2h-0002r0-Dr for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:56:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ny0h-0002BH-SE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:54:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ny08-0001y9-0F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:54:08 -0400 Original-Received: from consort.superb.net ([209.61.216.22] helo=f7.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NxdH-0002lS-Ok; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:30:31 -0400 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by f7.net (8.11.7/8.11.6) id h55GUPL00368; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:30:25 -0400 Original-To: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu Original-cc: rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14775 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14775 1. First decide how the Emacs version is going to look. I had the impression that the decision had been made, namely to hide those node names by default. Are there other issues? 2. Decide how the standalone version is going to look. In principle, I would like it to operate the same as Emacs, as much as possible. However, the other programmers haven't responded to my request, so I don't know when this will happen. I don't know when the next release of Emacs is likely to happen, but I bet it will be (long) before any Texinfo release incorporating the changes. 3. Implement 1 and 2. 4. Rewrite the documentation accordingly. I think the documentation may need to be updated after 1 is done and before 2, because whatever info.texi gets shipped with Emacs should reflect what's in that Emacs, and yet also still be relevant to standalone Info. I wish I could say otherwise, that standalone Info will track Emacs immediately and we could release at the same time, but I just don't have the person-hours to make it happen ... Thanks, karl