From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Divergence in menu appearance between Emacs Info and standalone Info Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:38:18 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200306050238.h552cIj26820@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200306041404.h54E4SO30552@f7.net> <200306041501.h54F1Tq3025762@rum.cs.yale.edu> <2110-Wed04Jun2003182418+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> <200306041531.h54FV9Qs025989@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200306041714.h54HEURm026453@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054780860 5697 80.91.224.249 (5 Jun 2003 02:41:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 05 04:40:58 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Nkg7-0001Sr-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 04:40:35 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Nkxz-0002kg-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 04:59:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Nkgc-0007nW-4H for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 22:41:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19NkeL-000677-Ow for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 22:38:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Nkdu-000560-1W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 22:38:22 -0400 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Nkdq-0004td-Al for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 22:38:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h552cAoc021700; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:38:10 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h552cIj26820; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:38:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu In-reply-to: <200306041714.h54HEURm026453@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) Original-cc: karl@freefriends.org Original-cc: eliz@elta.co.il Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14739 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14739 Stefan Monnier wrote: (info "") is a better way than using `g' since the `somebody' can just click on it (or hit C-x C-e). That is, assuming the `somebody' receives mail in an emacs buffer. In general, I would not consider M-: (info "") to be more convenient or intuitive than C-h i g . But, your question was: How many users currently actively use node names ? From what I can tell, these seem to be mostly used internally, much like URLs in HTML. (info "") uses a node name just as actively as g, or not? The point I am trying to make is that it is useful for an Info user to know the concept of a node name, it is not something of purely internal importance. This does not mean that it is the first thing a beginning Info user should worry about. It does also not necessarily mean that node names should be displayed in menus, that is a separate question. Sincerely, Luc.