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From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Divergence in menu appearance between Emacs Info and standalone Info
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 19:12:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200306042312.h54NCHj16157@f7.net> (raw)

    Presenting the user with two different manuals (regardless of how this
    would be implemented internally) would make this nearly impossible to

I agree wholeheartedly.  That's the only thing I feel really strongly
about, that we shouldn't have two manuals (especially not both named
info.texi!) for the two programs.

I believe many users use both standalone Info and Emacs info.el, and
those two interfaces are so very similar (by design, after all) it is
good to just describe the discrepancies where they exist, in a single
manual.  And we should work to minimize any such discrepancies.

By contrast, the other Info readers such as pinfo and tkinfo (besides
not being GNU software, as Eli says), have (I believe) quite different
interfaces.  So they need different manuals.

    "If you use standalone Info or use Emacs Info and set
    Info-hide-note-references to nil..."

There could/should also be a description of the Emacs Info behavior
with the node hiding.  Especially if it's the default.


As for whether the hiding is the default or not, that's your collective
decision.  rms asked my opinion, so I gave it, that's all :).

             reply	other threads:[~2003-06-04 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-04 23:12 Karl Berry [this message]
2003-06-05  0:39 ` Divergence in menu appearance between Emacs Info and standalone Info Luc Teirlinck
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-09 23:17 Karl Berry
2003-06-11  0:24 ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-08 13:48 Karl Berry
2003-06-08 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-09 23:00 ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-05 16:30 Karl Berry
2003-06-05 16:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-05 23:39   ` Kim F. Storm
2003-06-06 17:03     ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-05 12:59 Karl Berry
2003-06-05 15:52 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-05 16:23 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-05 18:19   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-06 17:02   ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-04 14:04 Karl Berry
2003-06-04 14:26 ` Miles Bader
2003-06-04 15:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-04 15:24   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-04 15:31     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-04 16:55       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-04 17:14         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-05  2:38           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-05  3:23             ` Miles Bader
2003-06-05  5:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-05 13:35             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-06  9:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-06 11:28                 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-06-06 15:38                 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-05  5:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-05 10:58       ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-04 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-04 15:47 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-05 10:57 ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-05 12:27 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-06  0:11   ` Kim F. Storm
2003-06-05 22:55     ` Miles Bader
2003-06-05 23:11     ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-05 23:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-05 23:56         ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-06  2:02           ` Miles Bader
2003-06-06 13:28             ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-06  9:50           ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-06 13:02             ` David Kastrup
2003-06-08  1:09               ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-08  1:20                 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-08  2:30                   ` David Kastrup
2003-06-09  8:53                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-06 14:00             ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-06 15:51               ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-06-06 16:54                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-06 17:25               ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-08  1:07               ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-15 15:47               ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-06-15 16:08                 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-15 22:27                   ` Miles Bader
2003-06-16 12:02                   ` Reiner Steib
2003-06-16 18:45                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-15 17:46                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-16  5:46                   ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-06-15 19:00                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-06 17:24       ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-07 11:46         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-06 17:03   ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-05 16:50 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-05 20:50   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-06 16:05     ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-06 16:29       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-04  8:54 Richard Stallman
2003-06-04  9:06 ` Miles Bader
2003-06-04 15:12   ` Andreas Schwab
2003-06-04 21:54     ` David Kastrup
2003-06-12  6:47       ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-06-12 22:13         ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-13  3:58           ` Karl Eichwalder
2003-06-13  5:00             ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-13  5:10               ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-13  6:16                 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-05  2:47     ` Kim F. Storm
2003-06-05 13:04       ` Andreas Schwab
2003-06-10  0:03         ` Kim F. Storm

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