From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu>
Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu
Subject: Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8
Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 20:52:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305190052.h4J0qUfa017404@rum.cs.yale.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200305190040.JAA01942@etlken.m17n.org
> > Agreed, but I think one of the problems is that the preference-ordering
> > is the same for load-time-detection as it is for save-time-detection,
> > so if you move utf-8 up for detection you end up saving all new files
> > in utf-8 which is not OK in non-utf-8 locales.
> > I suggested introducing a second preference-order, but nothing came
> > out of it (probably because I didn't code anything up).
>
> I'd like to avoid introducing a new mechanism to control a
> coding system as far as possible. And, the second
> preference-order (used for saving) works only in this case:
>
> (1) The buffer file coding system can't encode the current
> buffer, and
> (2) The most preferred coding system can encode the current
> buffer, and
> (3) A user doesn't want to use the most preferred one.
>
> Isn't it a very rare case?
Maybe it is. In my situation, I'd like utf-8 to be at the top
of the preferences w.r.t decoding because it virtually never
guesses wrong.
OTOH, I'm still using a mostly-latin-1 environment, so I'd
still rather avoid utf-8 when I can. I.e. latin-1 should be at
the top of my preferences w.r.t encoding.
I.e. utf-8 is definitely not my most preferred encoding, but
since Emacs will often mistake a utf-8 text for latin-1 whereas
it virtually never mistakes a latin-1 text for utf-8, I do
put utf-8 as my most preferred encoding (and then try not to
forget to do C-x RET f when saving a new file).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-19 0:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-25 16:12 Cyrillic vs UTF-8 Simon Josefsson
2003-04-25 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-04-25 17:09 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-25 22:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-04-26 8:11 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 12:25 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-28 9:18 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-28 11:11 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-26 16:21 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-04-26 16:27 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-04-28 4:38 ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-01 8:27 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-02 7:06 ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-02 21:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-03 13:37 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-05-03 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-04 13:03 ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-04 11:04 ` Dave Love
2003-05-04 12:01 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-05-04 17:13 ` Dave Love
2003-05-04 18:03 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-05-05 8:47 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 13:44 ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-26 14:10 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-28 21:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-28 22:29 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-29 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-29 14:27 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-30 4:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-30 5:43 ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-19 0:40 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-19 0:52 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2003-05-19 2:31 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-19 13:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-19 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-25 16:54 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-26 3:55 ` Implementing charset-aware X font names [was: Cyrillic vs UTF-8] Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-28 11:09 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-28 12:27 ` Implementing charset-aware X font names Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-05-01 11:13 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-01 14:14 ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-01 23:16 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 7:59 ` Cyrillic vs UTF-8 Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 12:14 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-05-01 7:20 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-01 14:06 ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-01 18:03 ` Customizing fontsets (was: Cyrillic vs UTF-8) Oliver Scholz
2003-05-02 5:17 ` Customizing fontsets Alex Schroeder
2003-05-02 6:32 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-02 13:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-03 0:40 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-03 1:50 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-03 12:08 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07 1:22 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-03 0:33 ` Oliver Scholz
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