From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:27:57 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200303312227.h2VMRvZ10491@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <3E8345E8.4090509@swipnet.se> <1048872463.17161.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049134327.3326.74.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049148977.14738.252.camel@localhost.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049151585 3492 80.91.224.249 (31 Mar 2003 22:59:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 01 00:59:41 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1908Fh-0000th-00 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:59:41 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1908G1-0001vE-00 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2003 01:00:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19084E-0004Mr-04 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:47:50 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 1907nh-0000Hd-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:30:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 1907ll-0007If-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:28:47 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1907k2-0006cI-00; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:26:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h2VMQuoc012965; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:26:57 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h2VMRvZ10491; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:27:57 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: otaylor@redhat.com In-reply-to: <1049148977.14738.252.camel@localhost.localdomain> (message from Owen Taylor on 31 Mar 2003 17:16:17 -0500) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-cc: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12780 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12780 Owen Taylor wrote: GTK+ apps can already do both - I described how to implement the second in some detail in a recent mail. What I'm opposed to is having dragging the scrollbar to the bottom scroll to the last page of the document, then dragging it _past_ the bottom overscroll the buffer. I don't think dragging past the end is a meaningful feature to have for this widget. Am I misunderstanding something? This is the behavior of the native scrollbar: C-x b : new buffer, no scrolling possible. type `a' : still no scrolling possible. type NEWLINE `b' : now I can scroll to bring `b' to the top but no further. Does anybody want to scroll further than that? The native scrollbar can presently not do that. Sincerely, Luc.