From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Customize Rogue
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:07:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200303111907.h2BJ7fI8012285@rum.cs.yale.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030309194520.250C.LEKTU@terra.es
> The "problem" is that I *don't* like the customization interface, but
> some modules want to force the user to set variables through the
> interface. I don't want to do that. I want to set them directly.
I think clearly, the problem is in the way those modules
use customize.
Most uses of :set are for things like minor-mode (where using
define-minor-mode has the advantage of providing a standard way
to deal with it), the others should be replaced.
I.e. we could provide set-activate, but I think we should
instead encourage people to avoid :set or at least use very
simple :set expressions and document the lisp-way to do things
in the docstring (as is done by define-minor-mode and as was done
before custom).
Stefan
PS: How about we add `write-watchers' to variables ? These would be
hooks that get called when a specific variable is `setq'd.
It'd have "zero performance impact" if we put it in the "setq-ing
a read-only variable" error handling path.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-11 19:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-06 8:39 Customize Rogue Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-06 9:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-06 15:15 ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-06 15:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-07 8:03 ` Per Abrahamsen
[not found] ` <rjfzpzeh87.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>
[not found] ` <200303100251.UAA13345@eel.dms.auburn.edu>
[not found] ` <rjsmtvuxd0.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>
2003-03-10 15:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-03-10 14:41 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-10 14:42 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-03-07 19:40 ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-08 13:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-09 17:16 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-03-09 18:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-09 18:25 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-03-09 18:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-09 20:02 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-03-10 14:24 ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-11 19:07 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2003-03-11 20:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-12 1:26 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-03-12 12:07 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-12 18:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-03-13 0:27 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-03-13 7:48 ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-12 20:59 ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-09 18:40 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-03-09 19:00 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-09 19:37 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-03-09 20:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-09 18:50 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-03-09 19:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-09 20:28 ` Customize and inhibit-startup-echo-area-message Luc Teirlinck
2003-03-10 14:43 ` Customize Rogue Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-10 14:59 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-03-12 12:50 ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-10 15:04 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-12 13:06 ` Per Abrahamsen
[not found] ` <20030310163108.44F9.LEKTU@terra.es>
2003-03-12 13:23 ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-12 15:00 ` Juanma Barranquero
[not found] ` <rju1e77b8v.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>
2003-03-13 14:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-12 23:30 ` David Masterson
[not found] ` <rj1y1b8q46.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>
[not found] ` <uptov2g78.fsf@synopsys.com>
[not found] ` <rjr89b0vxt.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>
2003-03-14 0:25 ` David Masterson
2003-03-14 4:21 ` Luc Teirlinck
[not found] ` <uadfx6b0c.fsf@synopsys.com>
[not found] ` <200303142312.RAA17322@eel.dms.auburn.edu>
[not found] ` <15986.27208.152000.911108@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
[not found] ` <200303150002.SAA17358@eel.dms.auburn.edu>
2003-03-15 0:22 ` David Masterson
2003-03-15 10:33 ` John Wiegley
2003-03-15 0:28 ` John Wiegley
2003-03-15 1:04 ` David Masterson
[not found] ` <E18sYEe-0004sQ-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <20030311021233.6EE2.LEKTU@terra.es>
[not found] ` <m33cluos3o.fsf@cicero.benny.turtle-trading.net>
[not found] ` <200303111543.JAA14383@eel.dms.auburn.edu>
[not found] ` <m3fzpt7usm.fsf@cicero.benny.turtle-trading.net>
[not found] ` <200303111629.KAA14566@eel.dms.auburn.edu>
2003-03-12 14:26 ` Per Abrahamsen
[not found] ` <E18t07p-0003C4-00@fencepost.gnu.org>
2003-03-12 22:34 ` Luc Teirlinck
[not found] ` <200303110016.SAA14021@eel.dms.auburn.edu>
[not found] ` <20030311012051.6EDF.LEKTU@terra.es>
2003-03-12 14:19 ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-12 14:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-03-13 0:13 ` Luc Teirlinck
[not found] ` <rj8yvj8qfb.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.dk>
[not found] ` <200303131444.IAA16109@eel.dms.auburn.edu>
2003-03-13 22:01 ` Per Abrahamsen
[not found] ` <200303131534.JAA16193@eel.dms.auburn.edu>
2003-03-14 5:59 ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-07 19:40 ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-10 14:51 ` Per Abrahamsen
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