From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize Rogue Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:40:04 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200303091840.MAA13033@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <20030308144154.4ACB.LEKTU@terra.es> <20030309185419.2506.LEKTU@terra.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047235221 17542 80.91.224.249 (9 Mar 2003 18:40:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 18:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 09 19:40:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18s5ie-0004Yo-00 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 19:40:20 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18s64X-0000Df-00 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 20:02:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18s5hp-0001v4-05 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:39:29 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18s5hX-0001tv-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:39:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18s5hW-0001ta-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:39:11 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18s5hV-0001tJ-00; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:39:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h29Id8B27773; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:39:08 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA13033; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:40:04 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: lektu@terra.es In-reply-to: <20030309185419.2506.LEKTU@terra.es> (message from Juanma Barranquero on Sun, 09 Mar 2003 19:03:01 +0100) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12199 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12199 Juanma Barranquero wrote: I know that. > (custom-setq inhibit-startup-echo-area-message (user-login-name)) > > would not get around that problem. Wouldn't? The custom-setq I'm talking about would have the *exact* semantics of doing M-x customize-variable MY-VAR, setting the value to VALUE and then chosing "Save for Future Sessions"... So it would, by definition. If I copy that line literally from your .emacs, then what is going to prevent that line from having exactly the same effect in my .emacs than it has in yours? The VALUE you are going to enter through customize would be "lektu" or whatever, so that value would really have no effect in my .emacs, where "teirllm" would be required. > I am not necessarily saying that you do not have a point, only that if > you do, your example seems badly chosen. (Unless I am completely > misunderstanding it.) The first one that crossed my mind. But what about those variables whose docstring says "Setting this variable directly will have no effect, you have to use customize"...? I want to have the option of setting the variable directly and getting the customization effect. I actually agree with the above. But what does this have to do with `inhibit-startup-echo-area-message'? It definitely is not one of those variables. Sincerely, Luc.