From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize Rogue Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 10:39:34 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030306101038.6330.LEKTU@terra.es> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1046943605 13989 80.91.224.249 (6 Mar 2003 09:40:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 06 10:40:00 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18qrr6-0003cn-00 for ; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 10:40:00 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18qsBL-0000iR-00 for ; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:00:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18qrr4-0004he-09 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 04:39:58 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18qrql-0004bL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 04:39:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18qrqj-0004ZP-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 04:39:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.141] (helo=mail.peoplecall.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18qrqi-0004Q3-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2003 04:39:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.22.27.143] (jbarranquero.ofi.peoplecall.com [62.22.27.143]) by mail.peoplecall.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h269dYt29650 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:39:34 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.05.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12126 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12126 On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 09:39:18 +0100, Per Abrahamsen wrote: > I wrote this function as a transition tool from "setq" to customize, Transition? > it list all "rogue" variables, that is, variables that have been > declared by defcustom but changed outside customize. I'd much prefer a customize-set-value lookalike which would set the value of the variable, and trick the customize machinery into believing I did the right thing, *without* having to load cus-edit. I certainly don't want to use Customize and I don't consider customize something I should "transition" too... I'm not attacking customize, I'm sure it's wonderful for a lot of people, and beginners most of all. I just don't like having to use a form to set what I could do with a line or two on my .emacs. /L/e/k/t/u