From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu
Subject: Re: setenv -> locale-coding-system cannot handle ASCII?!
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:33:03 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200303040433.NAA07773@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <buod6l73kyu.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp> (message from Miles Bader on 04 Mar 2003 11:48:57 +0900)
In article <buod6l73kyu.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp>, Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp> writes:
> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>> a buffer/string's should have an associated `unibyte encoding'
>> attribute, which would allow it to be encoded using the
>> straightforward and efficient `unibyte representation' but appear
>> to lisp/whoweve as being a multibyte buffer/string (all of who's
>> characters happen to have the same charset).
>>
>> This is more or less what a unibyte buffer is now, except that there
>> is only one possibility for which character sets can be stored in it:
>> it holds the character codes from 0 to 0377.
> Yeah, but I'm saying that emacs should be able to use this efficient
> representation for other character sets as well -- I think it's far more
> common to have buffers storing non-raw 8-bit characters than raw
> characters, so why is the uncommon case optimized?
As for memory, such optimization may be worth considering
except for CJK users, but as for speed, not that much. And
in emacs-unicode, it gets worse. And, memory is not a big
problem nowadays.
On the other hand, for the operations on raw bytes, the
efficiency of using unibyte buffer/string is really great.
[...]
> but I also think the current design is somewhat broken, and
> makes it too easy for programmers to do the wrong thing.
I agree, and, I think the main reason is the automatic
adjustment of unibyte<->multibyte. It may be a nifty
feature for users, but a very difficult feature for
programmers (including emacs maintainers).
---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-04 4:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-25 0:18 setenv -> locale-coding-system cannot handle ASCII?! Sam Steingold
2003-02-25 6:34 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-25 6:47 ` Miles Bader
2003-02-26 0:58 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26 2:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26 2:34 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26 2:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26 5:32 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26 5:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26 7:49 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26 8:05 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26 8:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26 8:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26 8:38 ` tar-mode Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26 8:53 ` tar-mode Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26 11:53 ` tar-mode Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26 12:22 ` tar-mode Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26 23:26 ` setenv -> locale-coding-system cannot handle ASCII?! Richard Stallman
2003-02-26 23:26 ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-26 23:26 ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-26 23:26 ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-27 0:06 ` Miles Bader
2003-03-03 18:59 ` Richard Stallman
2003-03-04 2:48 ` Miles Bader
2003-03-04 4:33 ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2003-03-05 20:46 ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-26 23:25 ` Richard Stallman
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