From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dapfy@t-online.de (Daniel Pfeiffer) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: CPerl mode cleaned up Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:36:06 +0100 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030212223606.2ab59cc2.occitan@esperanto.org> References: <20030212001131.3d6e6c97.occitan@esperanto.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1045086078 30110 80.91.224.249 (12 Feb 2003 21:41:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18j4Zd-0007Yn-00 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:37:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18j4aU-0003xj-01 for gnu-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:38:38 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18j4aE-0003wz-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:38:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18j4aB-0003vg-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:38:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.85]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18j4a9-0003uu-00; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:38:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18j4a6-0007qz-03; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:38:14 +0100 Original-Received: from pfdabpc.inhouse.start.de (520007185214-0001@[217.224.23.30]) by fwd02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18j4Zn-1DIeLgC; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:37:55 +0100 Original-To: rms@gnu.org,ilya@Math.Berkeley.EDU In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; ) X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux of course X-Face: #O4jYYB1q_#GM@+5bpI17zYh*qp]@lt"%.HQGbezyU>Cm@cp>rdE97{c:@). kR3O3H&LeNb(Q\/E^f{g|i~#u\4!\lJ"jR; Cx&[\,\xjKcLei-_1\d&TAm\E3&(c|>cQIoik]V8Vdf Qs)St&=rh'+N6/WxXf.VfUnD[<; 9{#[ZWC>]FP$xVRgTLssqs)7nQ'sH@l[9b5oo1@llkNJPx;&H(^ o~/ X-Sender: 520007185214-0001@t-dialin.net X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:4441 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:4441 Ilya Zakharevich skribis: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 12:11:31AM +0100, Daniel Pfeiffer wrote: > > Therefore I have updated both the copyright and version number to 4.33. > but please read the docstring for the version number! If you change > the meaning of the number, please change the name of the variable too. Actually I changed it according to the name, but the doc string is inconsistent with the name. Richard Stallman skribis: > the version of CPerl mode seems utter chaos. Both Emacs and Ilya's web-site > have 4.32, but they are very different. While Emacs' newest copyright is > much older, CVS with its many little fixes, shows that the opposite is true. > Having version numbers in Lisp packages causes persistent problems > which persistently waste time. > In the past my solution was to delete the version numbers from Lisp > packages. They are redundant anyway, because each Emacs version comes > with on particular version of every Lisp file. That is my feeling too. Given the recent discussion on gnu.emacs.help, people don't read the doc of a variable called something-version. They just assume that to be the version. Ilya, you should say whether you plan to further develop cperl (from the history of your ftp-site, I doubt it). And if you do, it would be a good idea to develop the Emacs CVS version. Then the version number can be eliminated without confusion. Also, I found your email as written in the module to be defunct. It should be updated in the module to the one above. Richard, will you do those two little changes? No need to resend that huge diff, is there? The variable also gets shown from an easymenu entry which should be eliminated. coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn Daniel Pfeiffer -- GPL 3: take the wind out of Palladium's sails! -- ------ -- My other stuff here too, sawfish, make.pl...: -- ------ -- http://dapfy.bei.t-online.de/ --