From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: info Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:00:07 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200302031900.NAA27632@moose.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200302010122.TAA12524@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200302031440.h13EeTR11294@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1044298876 21785 80.91.224.249 (3 Feb 2003 19:01:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18flq2-0005dr-00 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 20:01:02 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18flxl-0002Vs-00 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 20:09:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18flqT-0005GR-0A for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:01:29 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18flps-0004ft-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:00:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18flpR-0003q6-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:00:30 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18flpL-0003HD-00; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:00:19 -0500 Original-Received: from moose.dms.auburn.edu (moose.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.3]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA23094; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:00:12 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by moose.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA27632; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:00:07 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: moose.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu In-reply-to: <200302031440.h13EeTR11294@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: eliz@is.elta.co.il Original-cc: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11331 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11331 Stefan Monnier wrote: > Another idea is that any blank line ends the menu item. That's what the "sorting and duplicate-elimination for dir" code I installed a few months back does. I am starting to lean toward implementing Kay's and Richard's suggestion. I have not found any single example defeating it. Even if something would go wrong, the confusion caused by it (in as far as RETURN is concerned) would be less than the confusion caused by the present Emacs behavior. We are not exactly talking about deleting directories or such. Eli is opposed to it, but he seems to have misunderstood the proposal. The fundamental question is, how likely are we to see something like: * Menu: * Interactive Customization:: * Permanent Customization:: * Hooks:: * Styles:: * Advanced Customizations:: ---------- Footnotes ---------- (1) Available in Emacs 20 and later, and XEmacs 19.15 and later. (2) Obviously, you use the key binding interactively, and the function call programmatically! Not an actual example, but an example I gave before with some newlines removed. Everything depends on the likelihood of such examples occurring on practice. Especially the missing newline before the "Footnotes" line (the only problem) looks ugly to me. But, are there any hard stylistic guidelines against writing in such a blank-line-less style? I have not really made up my mind one way or the other. Everything depends on the above questions. Sincerely, Luc.