From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: info Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:51:59 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200301310151.TAA10405@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200301292039.OAA26000@moose.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043977851 10965 80.91.224.249 (31 Jan 2003 01:50:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 01:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18eQKN-0002qe-00 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 02:50:47 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18eQQI-0001VX-00 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 02:56:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18eQLd-0004am-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:52:05 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18eQLA-0004L4-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:51:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18eQL5-000481-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:51:32 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18eQKt-0003ih-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:51:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA09209; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:51:14 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA10405; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:51:59 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: bob@gnu.org In-reply-to: (bob@rattlesnake.com) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11243 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11243 Robert Chassell wrote: In the Dir file, when point is in a description, and you press RET, Emacs does not visit the Info file, but returns an error message that says: Info-next-preorder: No more nodes It visits the Info file if you are on the actual *-line. Otherwise a variety of things can happen, depending on the situation. For instance: * Emacs Lisp Intro: (eintr). A simple introduction to Emacs Lisp programming. * Eshell: (eshell). A command shell implemented in Emacs Lisp. Note: (eintr) and (eshell) only became visible after yanking. If I press RETURN on "A simple ...", I would be visiting the Eshell file, because I am not on the *-line. If Emacs Lisp Intro: were the last node, I would be getting the error message you got. Positioning point above the `A" goes to `File: eintr'. We see: * Narrowing & Widening:: Restricting your and Emacs attention to a region. * car cdr & cons:: Fundamental functions in Lisp. RETURN on "Restricting ..." goes to "Narrowing & Widening::" RETURN on "a region." goes to "car cdr & cons::" We all agree that the behavior on the *-line is correct and the behavior on the next line wrong. What we are discussing is what the behavior on other lines should be. At first it looks obvious: we want exactly the same behavior as on the *-line in both cases since we are on a continuation line. (That is exactly what I originally proposed.) But somehow things are not that straightforward, for reasons discussed earlier in this thread. Sincerely, Luc.