From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: info Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:43:01 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200301300143.TAA07576@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200301290133.TAA05169@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200301300031.SAA07530@eel.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043890950 18581 80.91.224.249 (30 Jan 2003 01:42:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18e3im-0004pR-00 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:42:28 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18e3oD-0004iG-00 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:48:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18e3ix-0001ld-0D for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:42:39 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18e3ij-0001jW-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:42:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18e3ii-0001iN-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:42:24 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18e3ic-0001ek-00; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:42:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA05187; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:42:16 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA07576; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:43:01 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu In-reply-to: <200301300031.SAA07530@eel.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:31:39 -0600 (CST)) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11209 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11209 At second thought, maybe the extreme example I gave in a previous message (with point as described) could be confusing to users, after all. I am starting to lean to Eli's suggestion (adopting the stand-alone info behavior), as that one never goes to the "wrong" node and never produces confusion. It would be better if RETURN actually went to the desired node in the situations I described, but again, I do not see how to get the "best of both worlds". I believe that my proposal would not be very difficult to implement if one does not mind about the example I gave (because most of the functionality is already implemented by other functions), but once one minds about that example I am at a total loss. The very example I gave shows that you can not even use indentation in the obvious way. Sincerely, Luc.