From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: environment variable don't get coding conversion Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:27:27 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200301270227.LAA14198@etlken.m17n.org> References: <200301250056.JAA11689@etlken.m17n.org> <2950-Sat25Jan2003200937+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043635671 24568 80.91.224.249 (27 Jan 2003 02:47:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 02:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18czJO-0006O8-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:47:50 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18czNN-0006ce-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:51:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18cz3x-0001lJ-02 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:31:53 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18cz2d-0000tB-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:30:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18cz1I-0000Dx-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:29:29 -0500 Original-Received: from tsukuba.m17n.org ([192.47.44.130]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18cz0U-0007u1-00; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:28:18 -0500 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2])h0R2RRk12693; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:27:27 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) h0R2RRR16715; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:27:27 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id LAA14198; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:27:27 +0900 (JST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:36:54 -0500) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.2.92 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Original-cc: eliz@is.elta.co.il Original-cc: d.love@dl.ac.uk X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:11109 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:11109 In article , Richard Stallman writes: > I agree. Text strings exposed to Lisp programs should be in the > internal representation, i.e. decoded. Otherwise, Lisp programs would > be unable to easily use them in text-processing context. > This would be true ordinarily, but here there is a more important > factor. The usual thing to do with environment variables is to pass > them through. Making sure that is solidly reliable is the highest > priority for environment variables. Therefore we have to leave these > strings in their original format. For that, as I wrote before, we can attach a text-property that contains the original unibyte string. --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org