From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bold by moving pixels problem
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:08:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021120220834.GC29543@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m18EUbO-000IeAC@localhost>
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:09:10PM +0000, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
> Did you install the patch in which bold is created by duplicating a
> glyph, but moving over a pixel?
Yes
> The change does not look too bad with the plain vanilla instance,
> however, there are three problems with the consequences of the change
> for instances of emacs started with my .emacs file:
>
> * the new bold creation technique fills in letters such as `m' so
> that they become unreadable rectangles
Yes, that happens with the font I use too; however, as I said in my original
post, it actually doesn't seem to make much difference to readability.
[I'm not entirely sure _why_ it doesn't make a diffence -- I suppose that the
little blob is close enough to an `m' and there's enough context that my
brain can fill in the details. It also helps I suppose that boldface
typically only occurs in short stretches of text, not whole buffers. In any
case, I simply don't notice it at all, unless I explicitly look to see.]
> That is to say, when I reset the value of `mode-line-buffer-identification'
> so its face is :weight normal rather than :weight bold, that change is only
> temporary.
...
> * I do not know how to set the value that is associated with
> (face (:weight bold) ...
> in my .emacs.
As far as I know, there is no way to universally tweak face attributes.
If the only thing that concerns you is the `synthesized bold,' I suppose a
variable could be added to specifically inhibit this behavior.
However, some `real' bold fonts actually have this same problem --
characters like `m' can be only vague blobs, with the vertical strokes
undifferentiated. Perhaps in such a case, people would like to disable
even `real' bold-face.
So maybe it would be better to add a more general feature that could also
make such a decision based on the actual font rather than universally.
[Another case might be fonts that don't have italic -- some people
might like to e.g. display an underline instead in this case]
I'm not sure how such feature should look though.
> The `m' in the word `emacs' becomes unreadable.
You might think about just trying it for a while, and seeing if you stop
noticing...
Thanks,
-Miles
--
P.S. All information contained in the above letter is false,
for reasons of military security.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-11-20 22:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-07 19:39 Gtk version getting closer Jan D.
2002-11-08 0:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-08 9:21 ` jasonr
2002-11-08 9:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-08 11:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-08 10:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-09 14:27 ` Jan D.
2002-11-09 21:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-09 11:53 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-09 14:16 ` Jan D.
2002-11-11 10:19 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-09 15:05 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-11 10:19 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-11 18:36 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-12 5:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-12 7:24 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-12 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 4:40 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-13 5:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 13:21 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-13 15:38 ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 16:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-13 17:58 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 20:07 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 23:03 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 15:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-13 18:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-13 18:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-13 21:15 ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 18:58 ` David Masterson
2002-11-13 16:52 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-11-14 12:16 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 16:46 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-15 2:20 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 12:29 ` Robert J. Chassell
[not found] ` <m18EUbO-000IeAC@localhost>
2002-11-20 22:08 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2002-11-21 0:21 ` Bold by moving pixels problem Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-21 1:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-21 1:44 ` Miles Bader
[not found] ` <m18HRR2-000IeBC@localhost>
2002-12-17 5:00 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-17 6:28 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-17 7:08 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 10:01 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 12:26 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-12-19 8:34 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 10:18 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 12:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-12-19 11:27 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 12:25 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 13:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-01-07 11:02 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-01-07 14:02 ` Miles Bader
2003-01-09 7:28 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 7:52 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 14:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-19 10:15 ` signal handling bogosities Miles Bader
2002-12-20 17:12 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-20 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-12-20 18:35 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-12-20 22:06 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-21 20:26 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-21 23:42 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-12-23 20:58 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-22 2:02 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-22 2:27 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-23 20:58 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-17 10:31 ` Bold by moving pixels problem Kim F. Storm
2002-12-17 16:38 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-17 23:54 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-21 6:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-16 1:34 ` Gtk version getting closer Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 12:16 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-12 12:34 ` Jan D.
2002-11-12 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 10:15 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 12:16 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 20:13 ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 16:55 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-14 17:25 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 4:09 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 17:49 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 21:47 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 21:30 ` David Masterson
2002-11-16 1:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-16 16:11 ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 11:32 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-13 17:09 ` David Masterson
2002-11-14 17:31 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:22 ` David Masterson
2002-11-16 1:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-18 5:06 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 2:36 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-15 4:04 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 16:36 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 16:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-15 18:46 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 21:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-15 22:35 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 17:33 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 18:55 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 23:18 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-16 0:44 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-15 18:00 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-19 13:26 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-20 21:13 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-20 21:56 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-21 0:47 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-22 21:00 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-21 0:38 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-21 13:09 ` Kenichi Handa
2002-11-21 14:08 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-21 21:47 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 18:13 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 19:03 ` David Masterson
2002-11-09 21:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-10 9:02 ` Jan D.
2002-11-11 10:20 ` Richard Stallman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-04 8:54 Bold by moving pixels problem Richard Stallman
2003-06-04 14:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-05 10:58 ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-21 5:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-04 23:30 ` Kim F. Storm
[not found] ` <E19O2Z4-0002Rk-GY@fencepost.gnu.org>
2003-06-06 1:45 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-06-06 0:46 ` Miles Bader
2003-08-07 6:04 last-sexp-toggle-display Richard Stallman
2003-08-07 16:56 ` last-sexp-toggle-display Luc Teirlinck
2003-08-11 12:53 ` last-sexp-toggle-display Richard Stallman
2003-08-11 17:59 ` last-sexp-toggle-display Luc Teirlinck
2003-08-11 18:54 ` Bold by moving pixels problem Robert J. Chassell
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