From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:58:45 +0100 (MET) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200211131754.gADHsvMU023810@stubby.bodenonline.com> References: <200211131635.gADGZmX14059@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037211149 9731 80.91.224.249 (13 Nov 2002 18:12:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18C203-0002Wm-00 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:12:27 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18C2C4-0002aM-00 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:24:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18C1zL-00014d-00; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:11:43 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18C1nJ-0006jr-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:59:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18C1nE-0006ih-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:59:15 -0500 Original-Received: from stubby.bodenonline.com ([193.201.16.94]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18C1nD-0006ft-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:59:11 -0500 Original-Received: from pc35.bodenonline.com (IDENT:root@[193.201.16.44]) by stubby.bodenonline.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id gADHsvMU023810 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:54:58 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <200211131635.gADGZmX14059@rum.cs.yale.edu> from "Stefan Monnier" at nov 13, 2002 11:35:47 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0pre8] Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9395 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9395 > > > IMHO, people that are new and use "common" applications will be > > surprised by tooltips in menus. Not a lot of applications > > have them. I've never seen them on any Mac or MS Windows application. > > Confusing users is bad. But surprising them isn't. > If it is a negative surprise, it is. I don't know what this would be. Anybody knows someone who can do a usability test on this? :-) Jan D.