From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Xft support (freetype, anti-aliasing) in X11 emacs Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 01:44:43 +0200 (CEST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200210060007.g9607IdC027101@stubby.bodenonline.com> References: <20021004.133233.42788207.wl@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033863307 30673 127.0.0.1 (6 Oct 2002 00:15:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 00:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: usenet@fischman.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xz4b-0007yT-00 for ; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 02:15:05 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17xzqv-0001mM-00 for ; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 03:05:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xz2y-0006wK-00; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 20:13:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xz1T-0005OS-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 20:11:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xz0w-0004o7-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 20:11:19 -0400 Original-Received: from stubby.bodenonline.com ([193.201.16.94]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xz0u-0004k3-00; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 20:11:16 -0400 Original-Received: from pc35.bodenonline.com (IDENT:root@pc35.bodenonline.com [195.196.29.227] (may be forged)) by stubby.bodenonline.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g9607IdC027101; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 02:07:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20021004.133233.42788207.wl@gnu.org> "from Werner LEMBERG at Oct 4, 2002 01:32:33 pm" Original-To: Werner LEMBERG Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8416 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8416 > > > If you say so, I haven't looked at Xft2. I don't even like > > antialiased fonts, they make my eyes hurt :-) > > Please explain. Recent FreeType versions (used in Xft2) support > various hinting modes. > It is not specific to Xft2, it is anti-aliased fonts in general. For example, I can not work with MaxOSX 10.2 more than an hour at a time. I tried to change the settings for antialias, but it had no effect. I am seriously considering reverting to 10.1. I have the same problem with KDE anti aliasing, so I turn it off. To me anti aliased fonts don't look smoother, they just look out of focus. My stupid eyes tries to focus, but to no avail, since the "out of focus" isn't really real. I get a headache instead. It isn't monitors either, I tried 5 different monitors. CRT is a bit better than TFT here. So my interest in Xft and anti aliased text is pretty low. Jan D.