From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Program-specified positions ignored? Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:01:39 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200210041601.g94G1dD06938@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <200210032003.g93K3Xd8025573@stubby.bodenonline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033747730 22480 127.0.0.1 (4 Oct 2002 16:08:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 16:08:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, jhd@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xV0S-0005qG-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:08:48 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17xVm8-0006RI-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:58:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xUzo-0006F5-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:08:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xUzZ-00061z-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:07:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xUzV-0005oj-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:07:51 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xUtX-0002bT-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:01:39 -0400 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g94G1dD06938; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:01:39 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: Richard Stallman Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8393 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8393 > > > I am pretty sure that the reason for this is that including > > > program-specified positions in XtNgeometry would override the window > > > manager, which is wrong. But if that is the wrong way to pass the > > > program-specified positions to Xt, what is the right way? > > A comment on the problem that started this, should not Emacs consider > positions and sizes specified in .emacs as user specified? > > There are arguments both ways, but I think the better choice is > not to do so. Why is that ? Every call to `make-frame' can use a different set of size/position parameters, so it is clearly more specific than Xresource settings. I think more-specific should imply higher-priority. Similarly, I believe that custom face settings take precedence over Xresource face settings, or am I confused ? Stefan