From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 08:40:45 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20020907124045.GA11339@gnu.org> References: <87sn0scb0b.fsf@emacswiki.org> <200209061728.g86HSVp32767@rum.cs.yale.edu> <20020906220339.GA7270@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031402576 9066 127.0.0.1 (7 Sep 2002 12:42:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17nevO-0002M6-00 for ; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 14:42:54 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17nfUM-00082v-00 for ; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 15:19:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17nevO-0008Hy-00; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 08:42:54 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17netR-0008Aa-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 08:40:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17netP-0008AM-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 08:40:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17netP-0008AG-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 08:40:51 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17netJ-00035x-00; Sat, 07 Sep 2002 08:40:45 -0400 Original-To: Per Abrahamsen Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7685 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7685 On Sat, Sep 07, 2002 at 02:01:30PM +0200, Per Abrahamsen wrote: > > Agreed. Customize should be a friendly face for the existing > > infrastructure, not a distant relative... > > Emacs will never be easy to customize, then. How do you draw _that_ conclusion? In particular note that _all_ of the proposed mechanisms for customizing keybindings will work pretty well for users that only use customize. All we're doing now is trying to make sure that things also work nicely for those who wish to mix customize and non-customize keybindings. -Miles -- P.S. All information contained in the above letter is false, for reasons of military security.