From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bugs caused by recent use of define-derived-mode Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:36:56 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200209031536.KAA27166@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200209020237.VAA26080@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200209021629.g82GTY707192@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200209022302.SAA26633@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200209031506.g83F6Yh12528@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031067441 2963 127.0.0.1 (3 Sep 2002 15:37:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17mFjx-0000le-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 17:37:17 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17mGIj-0001wC-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:13:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17mFlW-0006Yy-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17mFji-0006Rd-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17mFjg-0006Qx-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:37:01 -0400 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17mFjf-0006Qi-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:36:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28075; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:36:56 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA27166; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:36:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu In-Reply-To: <200209031506.g83F6Yh12528@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7390 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7390 Stefan Monnier wrote: > I was under the assumption that all of these obvious things are clear > to Stefan, as well, and that, unless explicitly mentioned, he was > proposing to implement the desired behavior. (I'd have expected Yes, except that I'm not offering to implement it ;-) Stefan I have only one single problem with abbrev inheritance and it is right above. There is work to be done. It would have to be done reasonably quickly, because the current copying system is badly broken. I am actually even more worried about all the "obvious things" than about the basic problem itself. Whenever one thinks one has taken care of all "obvious things" one notices another one that should have been obvious but that one forgot about anyway. And then yet another... Stefan is not volunteering. I definitely am not either. Sincerely, Luc.