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* Re: Several serious problems
@ 2002-08-19  7:48 Kenichi Handa
  2002-08-22 17:08 ` Dave Love
  2002-08-24 12:11 ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 105+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2002-08-19  7:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs, keichwa, rms, emacs-devel

Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk> writes:
> "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu> writes:
>>  Indeed, the safe-charsets property of the utf-8 coding-system has not been
>>  updated to list the extra charsets it can now encode.

> I hope whatever's been changed has been properly tested if it's on the
> release branch.  Please get handa to check it if he hasn't already.

>>  I think Dave or Handa would now better how to fix that (whether
>>  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode should change the safe-charsets or whether
>>  it should simply always include the new charsets and load ucs-tables
>>  when needed.  And also which charsets should be added).

> Whoever changed it should sort it out.

I'm quite confused with the current status of utf-8.el,
ucs-tables.el, utf-16.el, utf-8-subst.el, etc in HEAD and
RC.

They differ in many parts (utf-8-subst.el and the necessary
change for that in mule.el and ccl.c don't exist in RC).

It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to figure out what are the correct
behaviour of them.  I've thought that the current codes were
the same one as what Dave had, but the above statement of
Dave's tells that it's not.

Could someone tell me why are they different in HEAD and RC,
and why are they different from what Dave have written?

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@etl.go.jp

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 105+ messages in thread
* Several serious problems
@ 2002-07-22 17:11 Richard Stallman
  2002-07-22 19:01 ` Andre Spiegel
                   ` (6 more replies)
  0 siblings, 7 replies; 105+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2002-07-22 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

I cannot save the file lisp/ChangeLog.  It specifies coding system
iso-2022-7bit, but it contains something that cannot be encoded in that
coding system.  I don't know any way to find the text that causes the
problem; essentially I am helpless.

Handa-san, would you please clean up whatever is wrong with that file
so that it can save properly once again?

We MUST do something to make it easier for users to cope with such a
situation.  We talked about this a few weeks ago but nothing was done.
Perhaps we could add a command which simply scans forward for the next
run of characters that can't be saved in the specified coding system.
The message you get in that situation could tell you about this
command.  This would be a powerful solution, since you could easily
find all the problems, not just the first one.  Highlighting all of
them would also be a useful thing to do.

This problem prevented me from commiting changes to the file from
Emacs.  I was able to edit and save the file using
find-file-literally, but when I tried to commit the changes, C-x v v
tried to revisit the file non-literally.  I think that is a serious
bug in VC.  VC should cope with visiting a file literally.
Andre, would you please fix that?

So I tried typing `cd lisp; cvs commit ChangeLog'.  It put me into
vi to ask me to edit a log message.  Damn!  I killed it, set EDITOR
and VISUAL to `emacs', and tried again.  This time it gave me Emacs
to edit with.  I deleted all the text, saved the log message file,
and exited Emacs.  cvs obnoxiously complained about the empty log
message and asked me what to do.  I typed `c RET' meaning "continue".

At that point it never came back to me.  Now the emacs/lisp directory
is locked and nobody can do anything in it any more.

Savannah people, would you please delete the lock?

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 105+ messages in thread

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2002-08-19  7:48 Several serious problems Kenichi Handa
2002-08-22 17:08 ` Dave Love
2002-08-29 13:25   ` Kenichi Handa
2002-08-29 17:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 23:15       ` Dave Love
2002-08-30 14:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-04 17:23           ` Dave Love
2002-08-30  6:09       ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-31 17:30         ` Dave Love
2002-09-02  0:01           ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-04 17:15             ` Dave Love
2002-09-08 12:54               ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-12 22:38                 ` Dave Love
2002-09-13 19:34                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-25  7:01                   ` status of utf-8.el, etc [Re: Several serious problems] Kenichi Handa
2002-09-25 14:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-25 23:47                       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-26 13:56                         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-27 13:22                           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-28  3:19                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-27 13:59                           ` Dave Love
2002-09-27 15:24                             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-28  3:20                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 22:26                               ` Dave Love
2002-10-05 16:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-11 17:21                                   ` Dave Love
2002-10-12  8:27                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-28  3:19                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-27 13:55                     ` Dave Love
2002-09-28  3:19                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-30  9:09                       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-30 13:29                         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-10-01  7:37                           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-10-01 20:03                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-10 12:25                               ` Kenichi Handa
2002-10-04 22:38                           ` Dave Love
2002-10-04 22:32                         ` Dave Love
2002-10-09  1:26                           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-10-15 17:38                             ` Dave Love
2002-10-16  4:38                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29 23:09     ` Several serious problems Dave Love
2002-08-30  6:11       ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-04 17:21         ` Dave Love
2002-08-29 23:17     ` Dave Love
2002-08-30  6:11       ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-31 17:31         ` Dave Love
2002-09-02  0:01           ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-02  1:28             ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-05 13:41               ` Dave Love
2002-09-05 23:32                 ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-06 11:38                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-07 23:19                   ` Dave Love
2002-09-09  0:21                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-12 22:43                       ` Dave Love
2002-09-26  4:51                     ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-10 16:36               ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-30  6:09     ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-24 12:11 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-26 13:17   ` Kenichi Handa
2002-08-26 16:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 23:18       ` Dave Love
2002-08-30 14:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 23:19     ` Dave Love
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-22 17:11 Richard Stallman
2002-07-22 19:01 ` Andre Spiegel
2002-07-22 19:03 ` Andre Spiegel
2002-07-23  4:00   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-22 19:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-23 18:58   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-22 19:11 ` Andre Spiegel
2002-07-23  4:42 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-07-24  3:25   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-24  4:43     ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-07-25  3:12       ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-25  3:24         ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-07-26 15:35           ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-27  3:19             ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-07-29  1:12               ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-29 14:32                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-07-30  1:00                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-09  7:42               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-09 16:08                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-08-10 17:16                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-12 16:20                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-13  1:48                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-15  2:30                       ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-08-15  2:47                         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-15  5:31                           ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-08-15 15:30                             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-15 17:33                               ` Dave Love
2002-07-23 13:35 ` Kenichi Handa
2002-07-23 13:52   ` Alan Shutko
2002-07-24  3:25     ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-24  3:25   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-24  4:37     ` Kenichi Handa
2002-07-25  3:12       ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-25  5:53         ` Miles Bader
2002-07-26 14:29         ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-07-27 18:52           ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-09  7:43           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-09  7:44       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-10 17:16         ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-12  0:26         ` Kenichi Handa
2002-08-09  4:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-15 17:23   ` Dave Love

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