From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Kifer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestions for mode-line-format changes Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:16:05 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20020826211610.4026D9865B@optonline.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030396708 14007 127.0.0.1 (26 Aug 2002 21:18:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 21:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Kim F. Storm" , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17jRFi-0003de-00 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:18:26 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17jRki-0006cu-00 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 23:50:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17jRGx-0000ev-00; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:19:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17jREk-0000N4-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:17:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17jREi-0000Ly-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:17:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.5.9]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17jREh-0000Lt-00; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:17:23 -0400 Original-Received: from optonline.net (ool-18baa562.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.165.98]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 0.9 (built Jul 29 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H1G0099FZ2WHY@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by optonline.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 4026D9865B; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail.optonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optonline.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8EA9865A; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 17:16:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: Message from Miles Bader "of Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:52:51 EDT." <20020825225251.GA594@gnu.org> Original-To: Miles Bader X-Mailer: mh-e 6.1; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 21.1 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6931 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6931 Somebody> [ediff's user interface seems generally pretty bad; I like the Somebody> functionality, but never use it because it drives me nuts every time I Somebody> try] RMS> I feel the same--I tried it once and got too confused. RMS> RMS> I don't know whether fixing this would require major changes RMS> or perhaps just fixing a few details. Kim Storm> I'd suggest giving it another try. The GUI is a little akward to get Kim Storm> used to, but ediff is really too good to reject simply because of that. Miles Bader> So the best solution would be the same functionality with a better UI. I am open to suggestions, but I don't have much time to make major changes. Couple of times (the above is perhaps the third) I received general complaints about how bad ediff UI is (in almost exactly the same words as above with no useful info attached), but when I asked to be more specific the complainers did not bother to reply. --michael PS. On the other hand, I receive tons of email attesting to the contrary. PPS. I am also not averse to the idea that somebody takes over the maintenance of ediff.