From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [dane@mail.abcsinc.com: Scroll bars] Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200208240232.g7O2WOl11542@wijiji.santafe.edu> References: <200208170450.g7H4ovd08634@wijiji.santafe.edu> <200208191453.g7JErRv13421@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208201721.g7KHLNV09768@wijiji.santafe.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030156405 9373 127.0.0.1 (24 Aug 2002 02:33:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 02:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17iQjr-0002R4-00 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2002 04:33:23 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17iRDV-0004mH-00 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2002 05:04:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17iQl1-0000dF-00; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17iQiy-0000Pc-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17iQiw-0000PC-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:32:27 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17iQiv-0000P6-00; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:32:26 -0400 Original-Received: from wijiji.santafe.edu (wijiji [192.12.12.5]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7O2Wn509993; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:32:49 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by wijiji.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) id g7O2WOl11542; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:32:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: wijiji.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@wijiji using -f Original-To: huug.at.gmane@xs4all.nl In-Reply-To: (message from huug on Thu, 22 Aug 2002 02:15:23 +0200) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6822 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6822 That's not possible. Xaw3D compiled without arrows just doesn't contain the code. So you're saying that there is no way to customize the scrolling commands so as to make Xaw3D give the LessTif-style behavior. I am surprised, because the differences seem to be a matter of which command has which behavior--nothing deeper. Does everyone else agree that this is true? Maybe emacs can ignore the wrong type? Something like: This might be an acceptable approach (i.e. better than no change) if it gives good user-level results. Your patch seems to reject Xaw3D when it was compiled the wrong way. I would expect Emacs uses Xaw instead; is that correct? If so, what user-level scroll behavior results from that?