From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jon Cast Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: No calc in pretest? Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 18:31:19 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200207042331.g64NVJ726720@d-ip-129-15-78-125.cs.ou.edu> References: <5xk7obb15e.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1025826829 14555 127.0.0.1 (4 Jul 2002 23:53:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org, pot@gnu.org, eliz@is.elta.co.il, burton@openprivacy.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17QGQ1-0003me-00 for ; Fri, 05 Jul 2002 01:53:49 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17QGWE-0006VH-00 for ; Fri, 05 Jul 2002 02:00:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17QGQN-0003Sk-00; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:54:11 -0400 Original-Received: from d-ip-129-15-78-125.cs.ou.edu ([129.15.78.125]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17QG4X-0000jN-00; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:31:37 -0400 Original-Received: from ou.edu (jcast@localhost) by d-ip-129-15-78-125.cs.ou.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g64NVJ726720; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 18:31:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: d-ip-129-15-78-125.cs.ou.edu: jcast owned process doing -bs Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-Reply-To: Message from storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) of "Fri, 05 Jul 2002 00:04:29 +0200." <5xk7obb15e.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5496 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5496 storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) wrote: > The CVS version and the pretest should use the same minor number as > the next release. That's the only consistent numbering scheme. I assume by ``consistent'' you mean ``roughly indicating the feature set by the major/minor version number''? In other words, interpret a major/minor pair as indicating a feature set, and assign each release the major/minor pair indicating its feature set most closely. With that meaning, I think a coherent argument could be made that we should be conservative, and assign each release the largest major/minor pair indicating a feature set /completely containing/ the feature set of the release. That would dictate giving CVS versions the minor number of the preceding release. For a concrete example, suppose in Emacs 21.5 customize options and groups get a new :file keyword giving a file name to store the option's setting in. (I.e., Tramp could add :file ".tramp" to the tramp defgroup, and Tramp's settings would be stored in ~/.tramp.) Suppose this option were added on 2002 October 23. Now, assume someone is running CVS Emacs as of 2002 October 22 (version 21.5.-99.3). He installs a third-party package you've released, which wants to know if :file is supported, and use it if it is. So, your package tests emacs-minor-version, and determines it is 5. Conclusion: customize supports :file. Reality: customize doesn't support :file. Not good. > -- > Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk Jon Cast