From: Juanma Barranquero <lektu@terra.es>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 17:20:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020704164911.4CC1.LEKTU@terra.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ilu4rffy4nm.fsf@latte.josefsson.org>
On Thu, 04 Jul 2002 16:00:13 +0200, Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:
> Yes, you are right, but there seem to be several advantages of using
> guile (threads, i18n?, re-use between other applications, GTK
> bindings, etc) and I strongly doubt that implementing all those things
> in emacs is easier than switching to guile.
Well, you said that threads would be the main advantage, user-wise, of
the Emacs/Guile integration.
i18n is certainly a big plus, but I don't think Guile will make that
*much* easier: on one hand, because you have to maintain elisp
compatibility and supply the current .el files, so they won't be
magically translated/internationalized. On the other, because there's
still the C part (though that can be gettextized, it seems). The bigger
problem to internationalize Emacs doesn't seem to be the sheer amount of
manual work, but coming with a practical scheme (no pun intended ;) to
do the adaptation.
> I perceive the situation the same. What happened with the Guile Emacs
> project? It seems to have died after the 0.5 release.
From the mailing-list at
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/guile-emacs/2002-q1/msg00003.html:
>From: Keisuke Nishida <knishida at sky dot sannet dot ne dot jp>
<snip>
> I have stopped working on guile-emacs. My idea was to embed
> Guile into Emacs, which was not a good idea.
>
> Later on I started a new project, called emacs-guile ;), which
> intended to use Guile from Emacs as an external language processor.
> With emacs-guile, you can use Guile's module libraries from Emacs
> by importing them into the Lisp world.
>
> See the following package for more info:
>
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gemacs/emacs-guile-0.2.tar.gz
>
> Not me, but Ken Raeburn is working on a project that is replacing
> Emacs's core evaluator by Guile's one.
Ken Raeburn has a page on Guile-based Emacs (http://www.mit.edu/~raeburn/guilemacs/),
but it was last updated on 1999-07-07. Ken is subscribed to this list,
so I suppose he can comment on it.
/L/e/k/t/u
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-25 14:50 ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-25 15:06 ` D. Goel
2002-06-25 15:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-26 22:24 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-27 17:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-27 19:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-02 15:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-02 15:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-02 15:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-06-29 8:41 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-02 15:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-02 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-03 11:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-03 20:57 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-03 21:32 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 5:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-04 7:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-04 10:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-04 11:52 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-06 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-07-04 11:02 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 12:08 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-04 12:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-07-04 13:31 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-04 14:02 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 14:00 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-04 15:20 ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2002-07-17 2:58 ` emacs and guile (Re: ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much) Ken Raeburn
2002-07-17 7:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-17 9:11 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-07-18 14:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 21:45 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-18 14:55 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 20:13 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 13:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-19 16:24 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-19 17:51 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-18 14:56 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-18 19:54 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 4:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 12:56 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 13:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 14:16 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-19 15:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-19 17:48 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-19 18:25 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-20 0:35 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-20 12:00 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-21 20:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-19 16:54 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-04 19:07 ` ehelp woes, or why I hate a module that I love so much Henrik Enberg
2002-07-05 0:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-07-05 11:15 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-07-05 10:48 ` Richard Stallman
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