From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrate Tramp Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200206210940.g5L9ei720274@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <200206171631.g5HGVBM13861@aztec.santafe.edu> <200206190223.g5J2NlQ15963@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xd6unqw5g.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024652548 18765 127.0.0.1 (21 Jun 2002 09:42:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17LKw0-0004sY-00 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:42:28 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17LLO6-0000Gu-00 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:11:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17LKvi-0002Xx-00; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 05:42:10 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17LKuL-0002CI-00; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 05:40:46 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5L9ejC28133; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:40:45 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g5L9ei720274; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 03:40:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: storm@cua.dk In-Reply-To: <5xd6unqw5g.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (storm@cua.dk) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5034 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5034 If the default connection method for unknown hosts was 'ftp, ange-ftp would work as today; it could also be the fall-back for 'detect if none of the tramp methods work. That sounds good. I have one question, though: how long does it take to test the various tramp methods? I could imagine that if they involve trying to open network connections it could take many seconds or even minutes to test them. Can you tell us a definitive answer?