From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrate Tramp Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:31:11 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200206171631.g5HGVBM13861@aztec.santafe.edu> References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024331605 18566 127.0.0.1 (17 Jun 2002 16:33:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 16:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17JzRU-0004pK-00 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 18:33:24 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17Jzrn-0005Yg-00 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:00:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17JzRP-0000ze-00; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:33:19 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17JzPQ-0000sJ-00; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 12:31:16 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5HGVFQ12020; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g5HGVBM13861; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:31:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4931 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4931 Finally, I'd like to integrate Tramp into Emacs. How is the procedure? Do I just commit something or do I post it here for inspection? I'd like to see the diffs you propose to install in the existing files. One question is, how will the user control whether to use Tramp or Ange-ftp? Without further instructions, I would commit lisp/net/tramp.el and lisp/net/tramp-vc.el for the code and man/tramp.texi for the documentation. Ok. At the moment, tramp.el contains a version number (the $Id$ keyword). I gather that you're not happy with having version numbers in Lisp files. But I think it would be useful to continue to support a version of Tramp which is not bundled with Emacs. Then people can try out new Tramp features without having to fetch the most recent Emacs version from CVS. Advice? If nobody but you has to edit the version number then I do not object to it.