From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Stoeber Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: emacs misbehaves without --unibyte Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 02:18:18 +0200 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <20020529001818.GA428459@bruegel.RZ.TU-Ilmenau.DE> References: <20020528200814.GA487959@bruegel.RZ.TU-Ilmenau.DE> <5567-Wed29May2002004042+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1022631494 22336 127.0.0.1 (29 May 2002 00:18:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 00:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17CrAL-0005o9-00 for ; Wed, 29 May 2002 02:18:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17CrB3-0000wE-00; Tue, 28 May 2002 20:18:57 -0400 Original-Received: from bruegel.rz.tu-ilmenau.de ([141.24.190.37]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Cr9y-0000qB-00 for ; Tue, 28 May 2002 20:17:51 -0400 Original-Received: (from past-in@localhost) by bruegel.rz.tu-ilmenau.de (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA93523 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2002 02:18:19 +0200 (MDT) Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5567-Wed29May2002004042+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:1656 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:1656 On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 12:40:42AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Paul Stoeber > > Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 22:08:14 +0200 > > > > Neither (setq set-language-environment "Latin-1") nor > > (setq file-name-coding-system 'latin-1) creates an 8-bit clean > > environment. > > Emacs is a text editor, not a binary file editor. So 8-bit cleanness > is not the most important goal for it. > > There are specialized modes, such as hexl, for editing binary files. (How is Emacs not a binary file editor when it has hexl mode?) I started this thread because default emacs wouldn't let me navigate filesystems that contain funny filenames, so the "8-bit cleanness" discussion only applies to file name handling (although I had also mentioned "text/binary files" in a general statement). Is it reasonable for Emacs to refuse to open existing files and to invent new file names in place of existing ones?