From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: German tutorial fix Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 08:48:29 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200205201448.g4KEmTa25443@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <87y9emho8s.fsf@lexx.delysid.org> <200205160722.g4G7M8X18181@aztec.santafe.edu> <3277-Thu16May2002155214+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> <200205171928.g4HJSdw20390@aztec.santafe.edu> <87znyywagx.fsf@pot.cnuce.cnr.it> <87adqyz047.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <200205190530.g4J5UNa22924@aztec.santafe.edu> <87n0uwuwkc.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87offctgcb.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1021906314 13895 127.0.0.1 (20 May 2002 14:51:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 14:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: alex@emacswiki.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 179oVu-0003c0-00 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 16:51:54 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 179ojt-0000gy-00 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 17:06:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 179oWH-0002SY-00; Mon, 20 May 2002 10:52:17 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 179oSd-0002A9-00; Mon, 20 May 2002 10:48:31 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g4KEmTk25852; Mon, 20 May 2002 08:48:29 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g4KEmTa25443; Mon, 20 May 2002 08:48:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: miles@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87offctgcb.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> (message from Miles Bader on 19 May 2002 22:30:44 +0900) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4187 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4187 The purpose of the tutorial, I would claim, is not to give beginner's the absolute minimal amount of knowledge required to use emacs (with today's more menu- and mousified emacs, that's probably very little knowledge indeed), but to put them on the road to being a proficient user of emacs -- and part of that is coming to grips with the gestalt of emacs keybindings. That is correct.