From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CUA mode cursor color Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 11:00:13 -0600 (MDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200205131700.g4DH0DB13257@aztec.santafe.edu> References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1021309403 20974 127.0.0.1 (13 May 2002 17:03:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 17:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 177JEJ-0005SB-00 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 19:03:23 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 177JOw-0003Y2-00 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 19:14:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 177JEQ-0006Nq-00; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:03:30 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 177JBH-00068N-00; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:00:16 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g4DH0Dk09649; Mon, 13 May 2002 11:00:13 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g4DH0DB13257; Mon, 13 May 2002 11:00:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: miles@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (message from Miles Bader on 13 May 2002 10:35:58 +0900) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3881 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3881 1. Using `M-x cua-mode' doesn't print a message in the mode-line, whereas using the menu option does. Why not always print a message (many other mode toggles do, and they probably all should), and make the menu option and `M-x cua-mode' exactly the same? There is a possible problem with making these toggles display a message inthe echo area: Lisp programs may want to call them, and often it is inappropriate to print messages in those cases. Long ago, every minor mode was supposed to be controlled by a variable. Lisp programs could set or bind the variable, so there was no reason to call a toggle function. But this is not true in general any more. At present, we have turn-on-X-mode functions for some minor modes, and variables you can set or bind for other minor modes. And there may be some cases which have neither one. It is a confusing situation. I wonder if we can straighten it out.