From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enhancements to options menu (was Re: Reveal mode) Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 19:15:15 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200205052315.g45NFFE29713@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <200204302119.g3ULJAP06813@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xznzj30j0.fsf_-_@kfs2.cua.dk> <200205031825.g43IP3e00651@aztec.santafe.edu> <5xwuuk6b4q.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020640705 17107 127.0.0.1 (5 May 2002 23:18:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 23:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thien-Thi Nguyen , storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm), rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174VGr-0004Ro-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 01:18:25 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 174VNj-0004tm-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 01:25:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 174VGW-0000AM-00; Sun, 05 May 2002 19:18:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rum.cs.yale.edu ([128.36.229.169]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 174VDq-00007T-00; Sun, 05 May 2002 19:15:18 -0400 Original-Received: (from monnier@localhost) by rum.cs.yale.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g45NFFE29713; Sun, 5 May 2002 19:15:15 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 Original-To: Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel =?iso-8859-2?q?Jan=EDk?=) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3615 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3615 > From: Thien-Thi Nguyen > Date: 03 May 2002 20:39:35 -0400 > > > i imagine arrows dancing around the screen, some question like "these > > are fringes -- do you belong to the minimalist school of thought; i.e., > > I think that we miss a chapter with this in the manual... If you're talking about the dancing arrows, I might agree, although I'd point out that we also miss the corresponding implementation. As for the fringes, I would rather not advertise the ability to remove them (to new users). I didn't like them at first, but I now think they're really cool (the only thing missing is the "cursor inside the right fringe" feature which would allow us to display 80 char lines with no wrapping). I think new users could be tempted to turn them off and never discover how cool they are (and/or whine about how lame the gdb-arrow looks). Stefan