Vietnamese update [Re: Your papers came]

Vietnamese update [Re: Your papers came]

[Triet H. Lai]

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Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel Janík) writes:

>    From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
>    Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 11:55:16 -0600 (MDT)
>
>    > Your copyright assignment came.
>    > Could you send your Emacs changes to emacs-devel@gnu.org?
>    > 
>    > Pavel, would you please install them when you get them?
>
> Of course, please send your changes (with ChangeLog entries) to me.

Here is the patch.  It was made against Emacs-21.2 source. I also
attach the changed files in a separate tar file.

Regards,
TL

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Re: Vietnamese update [Re: Your papers came]

[Pavel Janík]

   From: "Triet H. Lai" <thlai@mail.usyd.edu.au>
   Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 18:40:20 +1000

   > Here is the patch.  It was made against Emacs-21.2 source. I also
   > attach the changed files in a separate tar file.

BTW - how does it compare with this file from CVS?

pavel@SnowWhite:~/.Emacs/Work/emacs> head -1 /home/pavel/.Emacs/Work/emacs/leim/quail/vntelex.el
;;; quail/vntelex.el -- Quail package for Vietnamese by Telex method
pavel@SnowWhite:~/.Emacs/Work/emacs>


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Pavel Janík

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You can, however, make a faster pig.
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Re: Vietnamese update [Re: Your papers came]

[Triet H. Lai]

Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel Janík) writes:

> BTW - how does it compare with this file from CVS?
>
> pavel@SnowWhite:~/.Emacs/Work/emacs> head -1 /home/pavel/.Emacs/Work/emacs/leim/quail/vntelex.el
> ;;; quail/vntelex.el -- Quail package for Vietnamese by Telex method
> pavel@SnowWhite:~/.Emacs/Work/emacs>

I've just checked the CVS from GNU.org website.  Apparently, someone
did a similar and better work.

Cheers,
TL

Re: Vietnamese update [Re: Your papers came]

[Pavel Janík]

   From: "Triet H. Lai" <thlai@mail.usyd.edu.au>
   Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 20:12:23 +1000

   > > BTW - how does it compare with this file from CVS?
   > >
   > > pavel@SnowWhite:~/.Emacs/Work/emacs> head -1 /home/pavel/.Emacs/Work/emacs/leim/quail/vntelex.el
   > > ;;; quail/vntelex.el -- Quail package for Vietnamese by Telex method
   > > pavel@SnowWhite:~/.Emacs/Work/emacs>
   > 
   > I've just checked the CVS from GNU.org website.  Apparently, someone
   > did a similar and better work.

Can you please look at it, test it and report here the changes you need to
make to it to suit your needs? Is this enough to support that method? I do
not speak Vietnamese so I can not judge here :-(
-- 
Pavel Janík

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twice for complete removal.
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Re: Vietnamese update [Re: Your papers came]

[Triet H. Lai]

Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel Janík) writes:

> Can you please look at it, test it and report here the changes you need to
> make to it to suit your needs? Is this enough to support that method? I do
> not speak Vietnamese so I can not judge here :-(

I'm checking out the source now and will report back to you ASAP.
BTW, I think I only need to remove the support of "telex" input method
from viet-util.el.

Cheers,
-- 
Triet H. Lai

Re: Vietnamese update [Re: Your papers came]

[Triet H. Lai]

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Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel Janík) writes:

> Can you please look at it, test it and report here the changes you need to
> make to it to suit your needs? Is this enough to support that method? I do
> not speak Vietnamese so I can not judge here :-(

I cannot build the source from CVS, the error was:
,----
| gcc -c  -D_BSD_SOURCE  -I/usr/X11R6/include     -g -O2  -DEMACS_BITMAP_FILES -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Demacs -I. -I../src -I/mnt/hda11/tmp/emacs/lwlib -I/mnt/hda11/tmp/emacs/lwlib/../src xlwmenu.c
| In file included from /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xos.h:284,
|                  from xlwmenu.c:38:
| /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xarch.h:48: sys/byteorder.h: No such file or directory
| make[2]: *** [xlwmenu.o] Error 1
| make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/hda11/tmp/emacs/lwlib'
| make[1]: *** [really-lwlib] Error 2
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/hda11/tmp/emacs/src'
| make: *** [bootstrap-src] Error 2
`----
Just in case, I'm running GNU/Linux-2.4.18-rc4, XFree-4.2.0.

Though, I successfully built Emacs-21.2 with vntelex.el (copied from
CVS) and can type "Vietnamese" characters with telex input method.
However, Emacs pop ups the following message when saving the buffer to
file:
,----
| These default coding systems were tried:
|   vietnamese-viscii-unix
| However, none of them safely encodes the target text.
| ...
`----
and it prompts for utf-16-le-unix as the default coding system.

I don't really understand how MULE works, but I guess Werner would use
a wrong charset (It seems ISO-8859-? rather than
vietnamese-lower/upper--these character sets share many accent
characters) for translation characters in `quail-define-rules'.  I
re-edited the table and the problem has gone. Below is the changes.

Regards,
TL

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Re: Vietnamese update [Re: Your papers came]

[Pavel Janík]

   From: "Triet H. Lai" <thlai@mail.usyd.edu.au>
   Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 00:42:30 +1000

   > I cannot build the source from CVS, the error was:
   > ,----
   > | gcc -c  -D_BSD_SOURCE  -I/usr/X11R6/include     -g -O2  -DEMACS_BITMAP_FILES -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Demacs -I. -I../src -I/mnt/hda11/tmp/emacs/lwlib -I/mnt/hda11/tmp/emacs/lwlib/../src xlwmenu.c
   > | In file included from /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xos.h:284,
   > |                  from xlwmenu.c:38:
   > | /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xarch.h:48: sys/byteorder.h: No such file or directory
   > | make[2]: *** [xlwmenu.o] Error 1
   > | make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/hda11/tmp/emacs/lwlib'
   > | make[1]: *** [really-lwlib] Error 2
   > | make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/hda11/tmp/emacs/src'
   > | make: *** [bootstrap-src] Error 2
   > `----
   > Just in case, I'm running GNU/Linux-2.4.18-rc4, XFree-4.2.0.

Hmm, byteorder.h is part of glibc. On my system it is in glibc-devel
package.

   > Though, I successfully built Emacs-21.2 with vntelex.el (copied from
   > CVS) and can type "Vietnamese" characters with telex input method.
   > However, Emacs pop ups the following message when saving the buffer to
   > file:
   > ,----
   > | These default coding systems were tried:
   > |   vietnamese-viscii-unix
   > | However, none of them safely encodes the target text.
   > | ...
   > `----
   > and it prompts for utf-16-le-unix as the default coding system.
   > 
   > I don't really understand how MULE works, but I guess Werner would use
   > a wrong charset (It seems ISO-8859-? rather than
   > vietnamese-lower/upper--these character sets share many accent
   > characters) for translation characters in `quail-define-rules'.  I
   > re-edited the table and the problem has gone. Below is the changes.

This is something for Werner, I think.
-- 
Pavel Janík

It's entirely untested, but it looks good and compiles. Ship it!
                  -- Linus Torvalds in linux-kernel

Re: Vietnamese update

[Triet H. Lai]

Pavel@Janik.cz (Pavel Janík) writes:

> Hmm, byteorder.h is part of glibc. On my system it is in glibc-devel
> package.

Probably b'cause I've been using a too old version of glibc
(glibc-2.1.3; base system is RH-6.2).

TL

Re: Vietnamese update

[Werner LEMBERG]

> I don't really understand how MULE works, but I guess Werner would
> use a wrong charset (It seems ISO-8859-? rather than
> vietnamese-lower/upper--these character sets share many accent
> characters) for translation characters in `quail-define-rules'.  I
> re-edited the table and the problem has gone. Below is the changes.

Thanks for fixing this!  Pavel, can you commit his patch, please?


    Werner

Re: Vietnamese update

[Pavel Janík]

   From: Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org>
   Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:15:42 +0200 (CEST)

   > Thanks for fixing this!  Pavel, can you commit his patch, please?

I did. Thank you very much.
-- 
Pavel Janík

panic("IRQ, you lose...");
                  -- 2.2.16 arch/mips/sgi/kernel/indy_int.c

Re: Vietnamese update

[Triet H. Lai]

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Hi,

I've added some new translation rules, which seem commonly being used
to escape from composition.

Cheers,
TL

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diff -u --recursive emacs21.bak/leim/ChangeLog emacs21/leim/ChangeLog
--- emacs21.bak/leim/ChangeLog	Mon Apr 29 00:23:26 2002
+++ emacs21/leim/ChangeLog	Wed May  1 00:14:57 2002
@@ -1,3 +1,8 @@
+2002-04-30  Triet Hoai Lai  <thlai@ee.usyd.edu.au>
+
+	* quail/vntelex.el (quail-define-rules): Add new rules to
+	escape from composition.
+
 2002-04-28  Triet Hoai Lai  <thlai@ee.usyd.edu.au>
 
 	* quail/vntelex.el (quail-define-rules): re-edit translation
diff -u --recursive emacs21.bak/leim/quail/vntelex.el emacs21/leim/quail/vntelex.el
--- emacs21.bak/leim/quail/vntelex.el	Sun Apr 28 23:17:39 2002
+++ emacs21/leim/quail/vntelex.el	Tue Apr 30 23:41:12 2002
@@ -398,6 +398,22 @@
  ("DDD" ["DD"])
  ("Ddd" ["Dd"])
 ;("$$$" ["$$"])
+
+ ;; escape from composition
+ ("\\w" ?w)	; breve or horn 
+ ("\\a" ?a)	; a circumflex
+ ("\\A" ?A)	; A circumflex
+ ("\\e" ?e)	; e circumflex
+ ("\\E" ?E)	; E circumflex
+ ("\\o" ?o)	; o circumflex
+ ("\\O" ?O)	; O circumflex
+ ("\\s" ?s)	; acute
+ ("\\f" ?f)	; grave
+ ("\\r" ?r)	; hook above
+ ("\\x" ?x)	; tilde
+ ("\\j" ?j)	; dot below
+ ("\\d" ?d)	; d-bar (d)
+ ("\\\\" ?\\)	; literal backslash
 )
 
 ;; Local Variables:

Re: Vietnamese update

[Pavel Janík]

   From: "Triet H. Lai" <thlai@mail.usyd.edu.au>
   Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 10:07:06 +1000

   > I've added some new translation rules, which seem commonly being used
   > to escape from composition.

Thanks. I committed it to CVS.
-- 
Pavel Janík

/* When we have more time, we can teach the penguin to say 
 * "By your command" or "Activating turbo boost, Michael".
 */
                  -- 2.2.16 arch/sparc/prom/sun4prom.c

Re: Vietnamese update

[Werner LEMBERG]

> I've added some new translation rules, which seem commonly being used
> to escape from composition.

Looks OK.


    Werner

Re: Vietnamese update

[Triet H. Lai]

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Hi,

For completeness, here is some more translation rules.

TL

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--- vntelex.el~	Tue Apr 30 23:41:12 2002
+++ vntelex.el	Thu May  2 21:24:00 2002
@@ -401,6 +401,7 @@
 
  ;; escape from composition
  ("\\w" ?w)	; breve or horn 
+ ("\\W" ?W)
  ("\\a" ?a)	; a circumflex
  ("\\A" ?A)	; A circumflex
  ("\\e" ?e)	; e circumflex
@@ -408,11 +409,17 @@
  ("\\o" ?o)	; o circumflex
  ("\\O" ?O)	; O circumflex
  ("\\s" ?s)	; acute
+ ("\\S" ?S)
  ("\\f" ?f)	; grave
+ ("\\F" ?F)
  ("\\r" ?r)	; hook above
+ ("\\R" ?R)
  ("\\x" ?x)	; tilde
+ ("\\X" ?X)
  ("\\j" ?j)	; dot below
+ ("\\J" ?J)
  ("\\d" ?d)	; d-bar (d)
+ ("\\D" ?D)	; D-bar (d)
  ("\\\\" ?\\)	; literal backslash
 )
 

Re: Vietnamese update

[Pavel Janík]

   From: "Triet H. Lai" <thlai@mail.usyd.edu.au>
   Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 21:34:39 +1000

   > For completeness, here is some more translation rules.

Thanks. I will commit it.
-- 
Pavel Janík

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shrink, and a way of life.
                  -- Eli Zaretskii in gnu.emacs.help about Emacs