From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Neumerkel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: focus problem Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:31:15 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200204080031.CAA02042@a0.complang.tuwien.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1018233536 12721 127.0.0.1 (8 Apr 2002 02:38:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16uP3X-0003J4-00 for ; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 04:38:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16uNw9-0005vo-00; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 21:27:13 -0400 Original-Received: from a0.complang.tuwien.ac.at ([128.130.173.25]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16uN41-0004Jk-00 for ; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:31:17 -0400 Original-Received: (from ulrich@localhost) by a0.complang.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA02042 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:31:15 +0200 (MET DST) Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:484 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:484 --text follows this line-- This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation, not to your local site managers! Please write in English, because the Emacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list, and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group. In GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit) of 2002-04-08 on gupu.complang.tuwien.ac.at configured using `configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars --prefix /usr' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1 default-enable-multibyte-characters: nil Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: Start emacs under X in a failsafe session, i.e. a session without any windowmanager - well, rather frame-manager ;-). Move the mouse into the emacs-frame. The cursor remains hollow. Only when invoking a window-manager (e.g. twm) the cursor becomes filled. This is particularily distracting if several emacs-windows are used, since they contain all a hollow cursor (only the status-bar remains a hint to tell where the current place is). Previous emacs versions (20.7.2, 21.1.1) behaved as expected: When the mouse moved into the emacs-frame, the cursor became filled even without a windowmanager. Traditional X-applications (e.g. xterm) also behave this way. I considered x-autoselect-window focus-follows-mouse cursor-in-non-selected-windows mentioned in the NEWS but to no avail. -- Using no window-manager today seems rather anacronistic, but these are actual uses where the problem showed up: a) Using emacs remotely via Cygwin/XFree from an MS Windows machine. b) Using emacs remotely with older and slow X-Terminals (I reported this on Fri Mar 15 15:23:04 2002 to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org for 21.2.50.1 already, no reaction so far. The last modification in 21.2.1 appears to have happened on Mar 16 12:38)