From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Fredrik Staxeng Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: face at point Date: 19 Nov 2002 10:46:07 +0100 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <1m3cpx51uo.fsf@Tempo.Update.UU.SE> References: <87vg2v6crn.fsf@blind-bat.une.edu.au> <87bs4nls2p.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <87n0o75sp1.fsf@blind-bat.une.edu.au> <87el9i5y8q.fsf@blind-bat.une.edu.au> <1mlm3qdql1.fsf@Tempo.Update.UU.SE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037699476 21639 80.91.224.249 (19 Nov 2002 09:51:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18E52I-0005cr-00 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:51:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18E52M-0003L4-00; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 04:51:18 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.2 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: news.update.uu.se Original-X-Trace: puffinus.its.uu.se 1037698328 news.update.uu.se (19 Nov 2002 10:32:08 +0100) Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed1.bredband.com!bredband!news01.chello.se!news-peer-europe.sprintlink.net!news.stupi.se!server2.stupi.se!newsfeed.sunet.se!news01.sunet.se!puffinus.its.uu.se Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:107201 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:3755 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:3755 Miles Bader writes: >Fredrik Staxeng writes: >> > As Eli said in an earlier message, there is an informal policy to try >> > to keep the light-background and dark-background variants of a face at >> > least `similar,' which sometimes complicates things. >> ^^^^^^^ >> >> This is neither possible or desirable. > >Whether it's `desirable' or not, I really don't know -- but it seems >like a non-unreasonable default position. I apologize for that expression. But I gave some examples to illustrate what I meant. I think that the set of colors that work well on white backgrounds and the set of colors that work well on black backgrounds have an almost empty intersection. Of course, if you by similar mean the nearest ones from the two sets, there is much less of an argument. The result is readable. But I hastily interpreted that as "only change the colors that we absolutely have to change". >As for possible, of course it's sometimes not possible, but quite often >it is. When it isn't possible to use _literally_ the same color, I'll >usually try to use something similar in spirit, e.g., if the existing >default is something like dark-blue, which looks good against a >light-background, but not against a dark-background, I'll often try to >use a light-blue for the dark-background case instead. That is the way to do it. The important thing is that you consider the background. Emacs is the only program I know that even try to do this. >And lastly, please don't be so condescending. We may have different >tastes than you in some cases, but we aren't idiots. Sorry. -- Fredrik Stax\"ang | rot13: sfgk@hcqngr.hh.fr