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* bug#35887: 26.1; global-eldoc-mode minibuffer noise is very annoying
@ 2019-05-24 19:51 Bob Proulx
  2019-05-24 20:47 ` npostavs
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Bob Proulx @ 2019-05-24 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 35887

In recent Emacs global-eldoc-mode has been enabled by default.  This is
a very annoying mode that causes minibuffer hints of elisp doc strings
to be flashing by in the minibuffer as the point moves around in the
buffer.

Please revert this.  Users that wish it are free to enable it.

Yes I know I can disable it.  For others looking and finding this
message this following will disable it.

  (setq global-eldoc-mode nil)

But one should not always have to be disabling annoying features.
People should be required to enable annoying features.

Line from the movie Ready Player One that I think applies.  Suits in a
boardroom meeting.  "We have found that we can obscure up to 80% of the
user's vision with advertisements before seizures occur."

Bob


In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2019-02-03, modified by Debian built on zam904
System Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)

Recent messages:
Composing main Info directory...done
Mark saved where search started [2 times]
Mark set
next-line: End of buffer [3 times]
Saving file /home/bob/.timelog...
Wrote /home/bob/.timelog
Saving file /home/bob/.timelog...
Wrote /home/bob/.timelog
You can run the command ‘timeclock-change’ with C-x t c
Wrote /home/bob/.timelog

Configured using:
 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
 --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-libsystemd --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/26.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/26.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --build
 x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib
 --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib
 --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-libsystemd
 --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/26.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/26.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-x=yes
 --with-x-toolkit=lucid --with-toolkit-scroll-bars --without-gsettings
 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
 -fdebug-prefix-map=/build/emacs-26.1+1=. -fstack-protector-strong
 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time
 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro'

Configured features:
XAW3D XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS NOTIFY ACL
LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS LUCID X11 THREADS LIBSYSTEMD LCMS2

Important settings:
  value of $LC_COLLATE: C
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
  display-time-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t

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w3m-load erc-auto mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook
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newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page
menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock
font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop
case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer
cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files
text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule
custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote dbusbind inotify lcms2
dynamic-setting font-render-setting x-toolkit x multi-tty
make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
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