From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master cd0a795: Output number of characters added to file (Bug#354) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:50:41 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <1edf6efc-632e-719f-7471-5f4c56d1fba2@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20170407022529.14820.30445@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20170407022531.17D812084C@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87r3143ndq.fsf@holos> <837f2wofjy.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1491605489 26846 195.159.176.226 (7 Apr 2017 22:51:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 22:51:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 08 00:51:25 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cwciu-0005oV-Ev for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2017 00:51:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52853 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cwcj0-0006ZF-83 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 18:51:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45143) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cwciP-0006Yz-TZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 18:50:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cwciL-00063S-0L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 18:50:49 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:44908) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cwciK-00062r-P0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2017 18:50:44 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD05160074 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id cv0Naoffgw_E for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4647716009A for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id IDqcC0Mve4wB for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E102160074 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <837f2wofjy.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:213788 Archived-At: On 04/07/2017 12:14 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > P.S. In the future, it might be better to voice such objections while > the patch is being discussed, All true. Still, I didn't realize how annoying the new behavior would be until I started using it. Formerly, when I typed C-x C-s I would typically get a little message in the echo area that I could ignore. Now the extra length often causes the message to take more than one line, which causes the lowest mode line to do a little dance to get out of the way so that the echo area can temporarily take two lines, and this is quite irritating. So, having tried it, I would rather not see these character counts and would rather have the default be the way things were.